Trump to States That Won't Share Voter Data: 'What Are They Worried About?'

Delete. Read earlier post wrong.

 

Lawsuits aren't based on laws, they are based on people being hurt or negatively effected.

 

Because of a basic right to privacy. If I'm told something is anonymous by a government official, it should remain anonymous. That said, the commission isn't asking for voting results, just the information in the voter registration, and election participation information (which is already public information).

 

Because that is part of the voter registration record. My political party affiliation doesn't necessarily tell anybody how I voted. I know that it didn't predict my presidential vote this year.

 

I do not trust Trump. He is spending unnecessary taxpayer money to try and prove that he won the popular vote, and who knows what else. He won. Now he should stop with all of his offensive behavior and get on with governing the country.

 

So it's all about TDS to you.........gotcha. Trump is not heading this bipartisan commission.

 

Based on the law nontheless so what law are you speaking of?

 

There are numerous laws and regulations about privacy of government records. I don't know specifically which ones are being alleged are being violated. I'm sure it varies from state to state. I know in FL, besides the last 4 digits of the SSN, the rest of the information asked for is a public record.

 

What is TDS? Trump appointed the "bipartisan" commission, and my view is that he has an ulterior motive along with proving that he won the popular vote. The electoral vote is what counts, and I wouldn't want it any other way.

 

For a couple reasons…

What has been requested is not public data available to the federal government, and certainly shouldn't be compiled at the federal level. That's why they had to request it from each state. Voting systems are the responsibility of each state, and specifically not the federal government's concern or responsibility. If the commission was looking at ways to prevent hacking of state voter data, voting machines, voting machine software, etc, they wouldn't need voter registration data. This is not about making the vote more secure. This is about a Trump lie that he would have won the popular vote if millions hadn't illegally voted. Whether Joe or Mary registered as a Democrat, Republican, or other/no party is not the business of the federal government. Party affiliation is only noted for primary voting, and primary voting is not a federal responsibility.

Compiling the requested information nationally would be quite helpful for targeted marketing by political candidates and PACs, or anyone trying to sway an election by pumping propaganda through social media targeted directly to those with a specific political persuasion, or to suppress votes.

Several states have laws specifically prohibiting sharing voter data and personal information with the federal government.

Lastly, one of the items requested was the last 4 digits of your Social Security number. With your address, birthday, and last 4 digits of SSN, your banking records, tax records, and other personal data and information could be vulnerable, and identity theft made much more easy. It's not like they didn't already release the personal information including email address, residential address, phone number, employer, and other data of Americans emailing the commission to express their opinion, because they did. There is no reason to believe they will keep this data secure. They've already shown they won't, whether through incompetence or negligence.

 

YES state to state and the requesting letter CLEARLY stated ONLY information allowed to be released under state law so there is NO state law being violated, they SELL this information to political groups and parties and polling firms and candidates. How do you think they target you with mail or show up on your doorstep?

 

Your made up reasons are not facts in evidence.

 

The public data is available to anyone and ONLY that data that is available to the public is being requested. So stop fallaciously assigning ulterior motives. Let's find out if the Russians hacked the election and were able to create fraudulent votes that changed the outcome of the election, isn't that your goal, prove Hillary really won, well here's your chance. But then you don't really want to know because that would blow the excuses wouldn't it.

Those groups do it already and there is no reason to believe this commission is even going to release such raw data.

 

I presented facts first hand. You need to reread my response to the list of "lies" about Trump post. The spelling and grammar are spot on. And you know all this. It is what it is.

 

Your guy wants last 4 digits of social security number which could expose bank accounts, expose you and me to identity theft, which political party we are registered in, etc. This information could be used for political purposes to stuff your face with gibberish. Get it yet?

 

I have no guy in this. The bipartisan Commission, I don't know why you keep erroneously attributing this to Trump you really need to get up to speed here, is requesting ONLY the data that is released under state law. And BTW they just announced on TV that a federal judge has ruled in their favor. And OF COURSE it is used for political purposes, why do you think political groups, polling companies, political think-tanks buy the information, get it?

 

Without the first three and the second two ya got nuthin.

 

I do not appreciate you attributing motives to me that I do not have.

The material requested is decidedly NOT public data… Show me where I can Google the registered Republicans or Democrats in Texas, or any other state, and see the names of those registered.

I do want to know what Russia did in our election. I also want to be sure the voting machines, voting machine software, and voter registration rolls have not been tampered. The federal government is welcome to provide assistance with making sure my state hasn't been hacked, but they have no business knowing SSNs or party affiliation. I am already quite sure there isn't enough voter fraud to justify the expense of this committee. It's been investigated repeatedly.

 

If you look at the map, Cochise county is one county out of hundreds and hundreds throughout the south that were hit with poll closings. With or without Cochise county isn't going to put a dent in the millions who lost their right to vote because of these closings.

Your argument has zero bearing on the massive problem of voter suppression in the south.

 

What does this article have to do with the truth about Greg Palast recent reporting? Your article goes back to 2004. And so?

And what does this have to do with Palast? Lol! These desperate rebuttals by the Right are always so comical, because they never tell us anything.

Always this "out in the wild blue yonder stuff" that is totally irrelevant. What a desperate lot.

 

Does the list include the million plus voters who Kobach accused of double voting but didn't? You know the folks he took off the list to vote because their first and last name was the same, but not the middle name? So he accused those two of voting twice, but never arrested them? And why didn't Kobach arrest them? Again, where's that list? We know Greg Palast has it. How come we don't?

 

Not really. The last 4 is often used along with last name, first name, birthdate to get into accounts. If you have somebody's last 4 (along with the other information, which was also in the data request), you do have PII, and can impersonate them.

 

Um, they don't.

 

Good luck getting a loan, car or credit card without the whole social.