Planned Parenthood: Teach your preschoolers 'their genitals don’t determine their gender'

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  1. FoxHastings

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    I couldn't care less what your personal feelings are on birth control.

    Your "what if a white person felt more comfortable with a white doctor" squirm has nothing to do with what life was like for blacks at the time of Sanger.

    Whites NOW are NOT openly discriminated against as blacks were back then.....there is a difference...even if YOU refuse to acknowledge it.


    Saying over and over again that Sanger was a racist doesn't make her a racist and in addition has nothing to do with PP today anyway...
     
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    :) Ya I figured this would stump ya and you couldn't answer the questions:


    FoxHastings said:
    Only the ignorant and brainwashed.
    Would you prefer the poor EARN their medical care by hiking miles to get to PP?
    Did you want to punish the poor by taking away access to health care?
    MY, you must really hate the poor if that's the case!
    I guess you want clinics put in very wealthy areas ....the wealthy will object, property taxes are higher....but you could delight in poor people suffering even more....
     
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    Yes I would say that too if the dictionary didn't support me either.

    Actually that's exactly what it means.

    with child in American
    pregnant
    child
    Webster’s New World College Dictionary, 4th Edition. Copyright © 2010 by Houghton Mifflin Harcourt. All rights reserved.
    with child in British
    another term for pregnant

    https://www.collinsdictionary.com/us/dictionary/english/with-child

    And yes my confused little friend, pregnant actually does mean that a child exists.


    pregnant in American
    (ˈprɛgnənt
    adjective
    1.
    having (an) offspring developing in the uterus; that has conceived; with young or with child


    Once again the dictionary sheds light on your lack of basic education and knowledge. Another predictable Fail. Do you enjoy embarrassing yourself like this?

    The only schooling here is watching you flail about since the dictionary does not support your claims. No rational or educated person dismisses the very textbook used worldwide to define the most common words.

    I noticed you could not produce one of these fantasy textbooks of yours that had a different definition of fetus so once again your lack of basic education rears its ugly head. Your argument here is much like so many others you have made. All opinion and no facts to support your claims.

    And speaking of education, never assume your opponent has less than yourself. That is the perfect sign of an uneducated mind.

    And nothing in there states a fetus is not human. Once again your lack of basic reading comprehension and education is put on display for all to see.

    It is amusing however that you actually believe one study by one scientist should negate the dictionary even when their own study does not dispute the fact that a fetus is a human.

    This is what the uneducated do when they cannot dispute reality. Desperate to find a single article they believe supports their claims then pretend it can speak for the entire scientific community.

    So why do we even have a dictionary if the uneducated people like yourself dismiss it? What is its function in society if you believe someone else's opinion means more than its definition? And I will point out again that your paper never denies a fetus is a human.

    Actually it is quite informed and nothing in your article claimed a fetus is not a human being. So once again your lack of basic reading comprehension is put on display for all to snicker at. Next time before making grandiose claims about your own education or lack of it, try actually reading the links you provide and realize that one scientist's opinion does not delegitimize the very book the world relies on for definition of common words. Especially when it does not dispute the reality that a fetus is a human.
     
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    Good! That's how it should be.......
     
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    Ok I'll play your silly game. Obviously your willful disregard for the forum rules not withstanding.

    A) The issue isn't having folks "earn" anything. The citing of PP shops is purposeful. It has nothing to do with either "earning" or otherwise paying for their services. So, you fail.
    B) The issue here, as noted, is not health care. An abortion isn't health care, unless the actual health of the mother is involved and there is a medical reason for the abortion. Again, you fail.
    C) Hate? Calling for the end of black genocide is hateful? Laughable.

    Again, all you have is insult and ad hominem, and frankly a dreadful personal communication style. I assert that your only agenda here is driven by your fear of either a larger or more influencial AA population in this country, and your continued support for the placement of and the use of these cites is driven by this fear.
     
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    I don't know when or if or how it might need to be discussed with preschoolers, but in rare instances, one's genitalia may NOT entirely determine or define one's gender, at least not in a standard binary sense.

    Here's some information on XX males, one of several biological rarities that exist in the hundreds of thousands worldwide:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XX_male_syndrome
     
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    And those genetic abnormalities can be tested for and definitely classify those people as genetically disabled and deserve special consideration but they are not the 99% of cross dressers out there who simply have mental issues and not a biological genetic disorder.
     
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    They would be idiots then
     
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    People who bias themselves with bs info tend to come off looking silly with their arguments.
     
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    Nice effort. But it's the binary thinking crowd you're targeting. To complicated.
     
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    Do not blame me for your lack of understanding that dictionary definition explains what is meant by someone using that word.
    It is not appropriate for explaining complex subjects - which is why we have textbooks.

    The second problem with saying "look look ... the word is defined here and says this" is that this commits the appeal to authority fallacy. 1) the dictionary is not an authority in context, 2) even if it was the "why" is not given = why the claim is true.

    Where is the rational for why this claim is true ?

    Your ignorance on this topic is further demonstrated by your false claim that the developmental biology textbook does not refute your claim.

    The Neurological perspective states that human life does not begin until the wiring of the brain get's completed. The fetus exists prior to this happening. If you can not figure out that a living human can not exist until human life begins, I can not help you further.

    You claim your opinion is informed but you when you encounter evidence to the contrary you run to the playground and stick head deep in the sandbox of denial. Human Taxonomy defines what a human is. Obviously this does not give all organisms that do not have the required characteristics. What is laughable is that you would think that they would list all organisms that do not fit -ants, dogs and so on.

    Human taxonomy gives the template for determination of what is required to be classified as Homo sapiens. It does not state that dogs, cats (and list every other species on the planet) that are not Homo sapiens. That you would expect this absurdity is what meets the snicker test.

    That you would think a dictionary definition trumps this domain science also meets the snicker test.

    So far you have given no non fallacious explanation for why a fetus. (A dictionary says so is one such fallacy).

    An argument consists of 2 things. 1) statement of claim 2) rational that shows this claim is true.

    If the dictionary definition is correct - then it should be easy for you to come up with the "why". You have not done so.
     
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    I am saddened to hear that you have reproduced....:(
     
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    Poor women living in the city with no vehicle are limited to going to clinics they can walk to.
     
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    Leftists made up the "Science Denier" claim on Global Warming which turns out to be ridiculous.

    But, when real Science Deniers are exposed on sexuality, Leftists are exposed. What a bunch of hypocrites. Biology is very clear with chromosomes XX / XO on sex identification, except in .01% of the time.

    The Left loves to make crap up.
     
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    Yes , the siting of the clinics is purposeful which you seem to object to......I SAID they ARE purposely put where the poor can access them.





    You can have your opinion but abortion IS health care , it's a legal medical procedure.:nana:




    WHAT black genocide ? There wasn't any done by PP.....YOU have NEVER proven that there was black genocide by PP...

    I think your "communication style" replete with lies and deflective segues is more offensive.

    I broke no rules, All you had to do was answer the questions:


    :) Ya I figured this would stump ya and you couldn't answer the questions:


    FoxHastings said:
    Only the ignorant and brainwashed.
    Would you prefer the poor EARN their medical care by hiking miles to get to PP?
    Did you want to punish the poor by taking away access to health care?
    MY, you must really hate the poor if that's the case!
    I guess you want clinics put in very wealthy areas ....the wealthy will object, property taxes are higher....but you could delight in poor people suffering even more....
     
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    The lazy good for nothing poor can just die. And take their fetus with
    What is being denied? What science do you have?
     
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    You are a man or a woman based on what's between your legs and any effort to say otherwise is between your ears
     
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    XX / XO - There is nothing else outside of anomolies.

    It is a mental illness to think you are a man with XX chromosomes. Anyone believing different is denying science.
     
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    that is fraudulent climate change science, women have the freedom to live as men
     
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    Where is the science that definitely says what your spouting.
    I've seen science show that there can be difficulties in the chromosomes of a small percentage.
    I bet you deny that.

    The anomalies are the transgender.
     
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    Anyone with an affinity for decency and the Constitution is going to have a problem with Roe.

    Actually no SC ruling is law under the Constitution - even if it's not glaringly unconstitutional, which of course cannot be said for Roe.

    Children everywhere would be better off if they disappeared without a trace.
     
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    Strange as it may seem, for hundreds of thousands, it's just not quite so simple.

    As posted above:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XX_male_syndrome

    And there are millions with similar conditions; this is the strange diversity that is biology.

    Of course there are plenty of crazy people as well - we needn't look too hard to find them.
     
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    Perhaps, at least known science...
     

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