Planned Parenthood: Teach your preschoolers 'their genitals don’t determine their gender'

It does a human fetus it doesn't make it a dog or a cat.

 

Of course you would like it to be "very simple really," but really it isn't. Human beings are complex creatures and vary in many different ways, mentally and physically.

But see, you choose to ignore that and call these people liars and deluded. Again, you make no effort to understand, and you behave as a bigot instead.

 

I don't watch "Faux News" (not American, sorry), and yes, anyone who wilfully and deliberately harms children (and/or animals) are probably the only people on earth I deem genuinely worthy of the death sentence.

 

That's a bit of a stretch. Are you suggesting that biology (boys are not the same as girls and vice versa, etc) is 'hatred and intolerance'? I sure hope not, Durandal!

Meantime, parents don't go out of their way to 'teach' anything other than biology, and in a manner and at a time to suit the age of the child. Demonising trans-ism is just as a bad as enabling or encouraging it. We ought not talk about it at all. Stick to science, not the whacky and fleeing feelz of 4 year olds (as though they're life decisions).

 

And you think 4 year olds need to be thinking and appreciating the perverse complexities of adult sexuality?

Edited to add: actually it is that simple, for 99.9% of us. Only someone with a serious agenda would automatically assume their child is in that tiny remaining percentage because he picks up a dolly.

 

I don't recall calling them liars, simply deluded...which they are. I have no problem believing that there IS a segment of people who think they are something they are not. This doesn't mean I have to take that belief seriously, as if they might actually be.
Some people think they are more than one person. People are so complex and varied that.....well...it's still bullcrap. Of course they aren't multiple people.

In any other case when a Person tells you they are something which they demonstrably are not we know they have mental issues. Why is this any different?

It is very simple. They have a delusion of being something they are not. Science shows they are not, so it has to be a problem of the mind. It can be nothing else.

Complex creatures, vary mentally and physically...blah blah blah...none of this means some of them actually are not what Biology shows them to be.
Stop the nonsense.

 

Do you think 4 year olds need to 'try to understand' heroin addiction? How about copraphilia?

This argument is absurd, with respect.

 

It's funny how some people assign such mental capacity to Children at all. There's reasons we don't allow them to do many things before adulthood....because they're simply not developed enough. Yet some people want to indulge a child who claims their Biology is wrong..hard science like Biological makeup.

Scary stuff.

 

never said the sample by its self was human just that the sample came from a human

Ok Mr Scientist what criteria is used to determine if an advanced living being is dead?
lets see an absence of a heart beat and an absence of brain activity
so being alive is the opposite has a heart beat and brain activity
Ok Mr Scientist what criteria is used to determine the species of a subject? the most accurate and advanced method is that subjects DNA
so but all that together and what do you have in a fetus beyond 14 weeks
an alive individual Human
and if you deny that your no dam scientist

 

So not only have you been owned on your denial of calling a fetus a human then claiming no human beings are killed in abortions but you are also owned on the definition of a fetus being human.

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It's not I, but the USSC says no human beings are being killed. Over 40yrs ago.
So WW3 man you still lose.

 

Pretty weak. Especially since the USSC has been giving more people rights and not taking them away.

 

do you know what developing means? No? Guess that's why you thought ww3 was to happen before inauguration.

 

It's entirely parental posturing. Really very unwell people, these parents. Munchausens-by-Proxy, for sure.

 

You're no damn English speaker.

 

Actually yes it is you. You said it earlier this thread. Please don't embarrass yourself further by denying it and making me link to your post.

And SCOTUS never said a fetus is not human and if you really want to continue this fallacy quote any judge on that court that said that specifically or run away as you always do when you are caught making crap up.

 

Do you know what human means? Because its right there in the definition of a fetus. You FAIL once again.

 

but your not disagreeing that because the law doesn't use science to determine what is human but some legal mumbo-jumbo and because legal definitions can be changed at will anyone of us can be stricken off the list of what is human there for stripped of our rights as a human
Do you actually want that amount of power given to other humans or would you rather have laws reflect on scientific facts that cant be disputed or changed

 

Yes an amoeba is a living thing (a being) yet the pro-choicers don't think that a developing human is a living being.

 

Well when it comes to sex and gender just two ways, male and female.

 

anything beyond male and female (and the rare birth defects of either/both) is 'thoughts'. not in the same universe as the very simple biology, and not in any way relevant to this discussion. thoughts add no complexity whatsoever to biology. suggesting they do, is like saying your mood adds complexity to the way in which grass grows.

 

Well science and medicine and humanity and the law can be entirely separate matters and in the case of this particular SCOTUS decision it was certainly not based in science nor in medicine and certainly not humanity.

 

Oh it has every relevance to this discussion and simple dismissals will be ignored. Claiming complexity when there is none does not change the fact that it is quite simple, our species has two genders, male and female. To teach young children that they are not the sex they were born but the opposite borders on child abuse.

 

i think they used science and common sense. There has to be a legal line in the sand. And today the legsl line is what the host mother to be wants.
For an unborn is not yet a kegal person or evrn person by scientific definition. But ad ww3 man defined a developing person. Wont be an actual person afforded all legal rights until it has left the womb.

 

how does the law give something not yet born all the legal rights afforded a living breathing human being? Should cells a few days or hours or minutes old have human person rights?

 

No, life begins at conception so freaks of nature can publicly dictate what others must do with their own bodies in private just as soon as any egg gets fertilized. Laissez-faire capitalism and bedroom micromanagement uber alles!