Apparently Britain has an epidemic of Muslim men raping white girls?

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  1. FreedomSeeker

    FreedomSeeker Well-Known Member

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    You can't answer my question, so you are not as loving as Modern Secular Humanist are (they answer "yes!!" to that question, because we love humanity more than your or your god, or Jesus, do, clearly.)

    Love ENOUGH to some day answer "yes" to that question - I know you can do it - I have faith in you, not in your immoral invisible friend in the sky, but in you.
     
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    FreedomSeeker Well-Known Member

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    That's not what I asked, I only asked if YOU would do that....you declined to answer "yes", so I'm more ethical than you are.
     
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    FreedomSeeker Well-Known Member

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    Instead of 72 sexually experienced women, how about ONE experienced broad who really knows what she's doin'!?
    I don't NEED a magic immoral invisible friend in the sky because I can think for myself. Some people have a hard time thinking for themselves, so they need a celestial father-figure.
     
  4. FreedomSeeker

    FreedomSeeker Well-Known Member

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    I'm no more afraid of your unproven and illogical invisible friend in the sky as I am of Zeus, or Thor, or Wotan, or Nanook, or Krishna, etc.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Jesus had nothing to do with the blubbering's of Paul (Paul did not know Jesus nor was he part of the Church of Jerusalem and so had very little contact with the disciples) and his God does not seem to be YHWH.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The Qu'ran teaches that men are superior to women.

    Quran (4:11) - (Inheritance) "The male shall have the equal of the portion of two females" (see also verse 4:176).

    Quran (2:282) - (Court testimony) "And call to witness, from among your men, two witnesses. And if two men be not found then a man and two women." Muslim apologists offer creative explanations to explain why Allah felt that a man's testimony in court should be valued twice as highly as a woman's, but studies consistently show that women are actually less likely to tell lies than men, meaning that they make more reliable witnesses.

    Quran (2:228) - "and the men are a degree above them [women]"

    Quran (5:6) - "And if ye are unclean, purify yourselves. And if ye are sick or on a journey, or one of you cometh from the closet, or ye have had contact with women, and ye find not water, then go to clean, high ground and rub your faces and your hands with some of it"

    Quran (24:31) - Women are to lower their gaze around men, so they do not look them in the eye.

    Quran (2:223) - "Your wives are as a tilth unto you; so approach your tilth when or how ye will..."A man has dominion over his wives' bodies as he does his land.

    Quran (53:27) - "Those who believe not in the Hereafter, name the angels with female names." Angels are sublime beings, and would therefore be male.

    Further - Islam is more than just the Quran. It is how it is practiced just like Christianity - the dogma. Christianity for example does not much follow the teachings of Jesus. The same is probably true of Islam (or many sects within Islam).

    This is not to say that all followers of Islam are nasty people ... just like all followers of Christianity are not.

    The big problem is the Islamists - those who hate individual rights and freedoms.
     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    :roll: Nobody said they did, only that it is so endemic in their countries that it would seem to be part of their culture.

    You're very quick to use the word 'bigot' I can't help noticing?
     
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    :roll: Nobody said there is! Jeez! :wall:
     
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    clennan Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Actually, that's twice you've failed to understand my non-response.

    I'll explain it to you again:

    You are using these cut-and-pastes to paint a false picture of Islam as it is actually practiced by the vast majority of Muslims.

    Therefore, they are not worthy of comment.

    If you don't want to accept this, fine, but any other explanation you come up with is a self-serving figment of your imagination.
     
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    UH name the culture where rape doesn't exist? It ain't white Christian culture nor white Catholc priest culture...what culture is it???
     
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    The S*n is a vile rightwing Murdoch example of the gutter press. What is a Labour MP doing writing for it?
     
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    The majority follow an immoral religion.



    Regards
    DL
     
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    Greatest I am Well-Known Member

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    How is apostasy corrected in Islam?

    What is done to the apostate to punish him in a loving way?

    Death. Right?

    Regards
    DL
     
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    Before you begin to think of what apostasy is in Islam, you must first be able to show from the Qur'an what is apostate to God from the Qur'an. Apostasy is not to man. Apostasy is towards God.
     
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    You are asking me if I would give the cure to cancer if I was not me but someone else?

    I would first have to be in that person's shoes to see what the pros and cons were if I had the cure and could give it.

    Let's see. If 'I' had the cure to cancer, how might 'I' give it to the world with its physicians which would use 'my' cure to cure 'all' cancers?

    How would 'You' give the cure to cancers, to the world, if 'You' had it?

    I'm sure if physicians 'asked' God for the cure, He might be more willing to share information with them than to forcefully 'give' or drop the cure on an atheist's lap or head.

    I heard that St. Jude's Children's Hospital was formed and established by such a person. After the person 'asked' God for help to build a hospital for children who couldn't afford to pay, God did help him.

    How many physicians or medical researchers do you know of that have asked God for medical helps?

    Of course, once HE begins to help, it's much more productive if you see it to the end instead of 'dropping out' before getting to the end.

    You would have to be an Old Testament Prophet in order to 'hear' God's Words, that clearly the first time around, to get the 'cure' in 1 night.
     
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    delade Well-Known Member

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    John 10:34
    "Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?"
     
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    delade Well-Known Member

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    What would you have done if you were in a seat of authority in those Egyptian days to free the sons of Jacob from Egypt? If you were on the outside of Egypt with yourself and maybe some others and you wanted to free the Hebrews from out of Egypt, what are some options you could think of doing?
     
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    delade Well-Known Member

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    Not even that Jesus IS GOD but that in the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God.
     
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    delade Well-Known Member

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    God does not send anyone to the Charles Manson Wing in hell just because you have human sexual needs just like every other human does. And God does not send anyone to the Charles Manson Wing in hell just because of 'masturbation' or having a few sexual partners to get the urge and need out of the way. He might send someone to the Charles Manson Wing in hell if the person is knowingly committing sexual crime against another person's desires and 'forcing' his sex on others with their refusal. And if that person does not want to stop hurting the innocent ones who keep saying 'no', then there might be trouble.

    I mean think about it. Jacob had 4 wives and 12 children all living at the same time in the same camp.
     
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    delade Well-Known Member

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    Or just give the cure to have the AIDS not spread by unprotected sex. Why should an innocent person get AIDS just because the other person was not considerate enough to keep himself/herself protected before having intercourse with someone who didn't have HIV?

    I think if there ever was a cure for every STD, the world would become one huge ORGY.

    And for those who wouldn't mind having the entire world as an 'Orgy', I'd suggest talking with some sound minded persons from time to time.

    To think that it would be okay to have the entire world in an Orgy at all times is very self centered. Not everyone wants to have sex with complete strangers all the time.

    Rapists would have no retribution is there were cures for all sexual crimes.
     
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    the Sun backed Tony Blair
     
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    Remember that I used the word 'endemic' when I pointed out the difference between domestic rape, and a culture of organised and systemic rape, with children being the prime target? It's one of the reasons certain cultures head for this country - because they have zero fear of the consequences of being caught abusing babies and toddlers. I don't deny we in the UK have our own serial child abusers - religious, non-religious and political, and with Cormac Murphy O'connor et al, the scum Saville and Cyril Smith in mind how can I - but why should we import misogynists and paedophiles from every other bloody country on the planet too? Or are you arguing the point just for the sake of arguing it?
     
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    So I guess between the time that Penicillin and the Pill were invented, and AIDS was discovered was one great big orgy? Of course the funniest thing is that you destroy your whole theory that the world would become one huge orgy with your last line:

    Imagine that. People able to control themselves without having the threat of a deadly disease hanging over their head. You might need the threat of a deadly disease to stop you from becoming a sex addict, but the rest of us have this thing called self-control.
     
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    Nice deflection due to you not wanting to admit that the remedy for apostasy in Islam is death.

    The usual religious hypocrisy. Thanks for showing how you cannot argue for your God.

    Regards
    DL
     
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    Are you admitting to being a potential God with that quote?

    If not, what do you wish to convey with that quote?

    Regards
    DL
     

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