Why is Trump Getting Attacked for Blaming Both Sides?

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  1. Bluebird

    Bluebird Well-Known Member

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    Incorrect,you are interpreting my words to fit your narrative--I have been pretty clear & consistent---I oppose hatred in this country--the KKK & pro Nazi represent hatred to certain groups in our country--that is what I have been saying throughout this thread---
    If they have no good reason for their protests,why are they protesting?
     
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    I took your words literally; the only interpretation going on here is by you, to backpedal.

    And what if they do not give you that good reason?
    Will you still let them voice that opinion?
     
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  3. ArmySoldier

    ArmySoldier Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Dude, don't get sucked into her fascist anti-American views that free speech is not protected.
     
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    It's pretty clear she only approves of free speech for those she agrees with.
    To be fair, this is a common trait among liberals.
     
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    Exactly right
     
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    "Why is Trump Getting Attacked for Blaming Both Sides?" - I think it's because people rightly or wrongly assume that he was equating only the protesters right in the street at the time when that car driver killed them - there is NO equivalence between those two (the killer was wrong.) But when we look at the overall, broad, Antifa movement, then yes, there is blame on both sides.

     
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    If you did not understand my meaning,you could have asked for clarification, but no, you just assumed I was against free speech---
    No, I am not backpedaling one bit----
    If they have no good reason ,why are they protesting?
    In my opinion,the only people in the United States that have a right to protest which nationalities have a right to be here is the Native American's,everyone else is a immigrant and one group of immigrants ( the KKK & pro Nazi's) trying to tell the rest of us who is welcome here & who isn't is just a hate group which has no place in the United States of America----
     
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    Just agreeing with your Commander!
     
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    No, your just siding with the poster who originally took it upon himself to misinterpret my opinion----
    But, to be fair,this is a common trait with alt-right GOP'S!
     
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    There she goes with the nonsense. I hope this is the best the left wing has. I'm assuming it is. They've never been great with the truth.

    Enjoy trolling others! I'm out
     
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    Yep,another common trait for the alt-right GOP---Can't admit that they were wrong,so insult & run away----STELLAR---
     
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    ArmySoldier Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Still waiting for you to cite "All the military commanders agree with me" lol

    Oh darnit. Did I bite again?
     
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    Oh yea, and for your comment about the "Commander of the National Guard"...there are 50 of them. They are called "governors" LOL.
     
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    So then you agree -- people who disagree with you, regardless of how or why, have exactly the same right to speak, assemble and protest as you do.
    Right?
     
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    AHEM-I am saying that there is no place for the KKK & pro Nazi in the United States of America---
    Now, just for clarification on your part----Do you agree that these immigrants ( members of the KKK & pro Nazi's) i.e." hate" groups,have the right to tell the rest of us & kill---who belongs in the United States & who doesn't?
    Then your rationale as to why these groups have that right!
     
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    Well that would explain a lot, and is certainly the more generous interpretation.

    But I don't think that is what people are assuming. I think people are making the statements in relation to the entire event, and green lighting violence provided it is "righteous".

    I think maybe this comes from America's puritanical cultural background, but in any event, at least in my experience, when there is conflict Americans look for the moral good guy and take that side, much more readily than Western Europeans, who seem to prefer an immoral peace to moral war.
     
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    Lets try this again:
    Do you or do you not agree -- people who disagree with you, regardless of how or why, have exactly the same right to speak, assemble and protest as you do.
     
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    But if native Americans got together and decided to kick out people you would be OK with that?
     
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    Well,beings I am half Native American & half English & have come to grips that the immigrants are not going to leave,I have learned to live peacefully with them.
    There has long ago been a treaty between the Native American's & the immigrants, the Native American's have kept that treaty, so until they do otherwise there is no need for me to give a hypothetical to your statement.
     
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    He didn't mention to remember when his ancestors traded slaves. ,,, but the Stalinists moved the thread rather than tell the freeloading morons not to hijack threads they don't like. We are where we are. Hope to see you around the web somewhere.
     
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    You brought up the hypothetical..."In my opinion,the only people in the United States that have a right to protest which nationalities have a right to be here is the Native American's,everyone else is a immigrant..."


    So I guess your real answer is no, Native Americans don't have a special right to protest who else comes here.

    In any case,regardless of how much native American you are or think you are, unless you're on the tribal roles you're not considered "Native American."
     
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    This explains your fascist view and your stupidity.
     
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    I see. According to you, white people have no right to protest.
    Nor do blacks. Or Jews.
    Nice.
     
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    Because what Obama said was highlighting and reminding the short sighted, non-intellectual right about the history of the conflict between Christians, Jews, and Muslims.

    What Trump DIDN'T say was that those who support racism are wrong. He was right to say that violence on both sides of the protest were wrong, but he refused to condemn the white supremacists because he knew that politically it would harm him. See the difference? I won't hold my breath...
     

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