Most Voters Welcome Trump’s Outreach to Congressional Democrats

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  1. JakeStarkey

    JakeStarkey Well-Known Member

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    Sigh and sigh. There is no "communist agenda", BVWC. My goodness, drama much?
     
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    Lol too funny
     
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    Yeah, he should have been dynamic and talked about grabbing p*ssies and how ugly Ted Cruz's wife was. Then you would have thought him dynamic.

    Or he could have said another dynamic thing, like "I know more about ISIS than the generals do". Of course, I wouldn't have believed him. Only a moron would believe that a private citizen knows more about ISIS than the generals do. Then again, it did get Trump a lot of votes for those dynamic words.....from morons.

    In the future you may want to think more rationally before accusing other posters of being feminists who voted for Bernie Sanders or "write in" candidates. It makes you look less ridiculous.
     
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    Unlike you, I didn't base my decision on 20-year old locker room talk or Ted Cruz's wife. I factored in the more important issues, like who is most likely to secure our borders; who is most likely to nominate conservative judges; who is most likely to repeal the ACA; who is most likely to place the interests of America ahead of the interests of foreign countries, and the interests of American citizens ahead of non-citizens; and who is most likely to win based upon those principles.

    If you had thought rationally as I did, instead of obsessing over emotionally driven trivialities, you would have voted for Trump too. Instead you wasted your vote.
     
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    I didn't waste my vote. I don't vote for crude, ignorant, obnoxious Democrats who supported single payer healthcare, gun control, and other things I oppose. You do. That's your choice, as I exercised mine.
     
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    If you had thought rationally, you would not have voted either of Trump or Clinton
     
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    If you thought rationally, you would not keep posting such inane responses.
     
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    Inanity is thy name.
     
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    If they get the opportunity, the Dems will impeach Trump at the drop of a hat, no matter their cozying up.
     
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    Au contraire, given the opportunity they will impeach Trump in the blink of an eye.
     
  11. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    If they don't there may not be a Republican House. The House may be (and was pretty much designed to be), largely comprised of ward heelers (sp?) who stay in office largely by being sort of Omsbudsmans (sp?) for their Constituents, but that only goes so far. Anyone old enough to remember Newt Gingrich and the House elections of 1994 will attest to that.
     
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    Nope. Two reasons why they won't:

    (1) They will get legislation they would not otherwise get.

    (2) Impeach Trump, they get a true Conservator, Pence, instead of wishy-washy on principles Trump.
     
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    Sorry but Trump has done absolutly nothing so far to improve or help the economy. No significant legislation whatsoever. No major changes in tarriffs, taxes, or regulations. The economy we have now is still the Obama economy. That may change under Trump either for better or worse but right now he has done essentially nothing productive.

    And no, business does not run on feelings unless you think business is running a lemonaide stand.
     
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    Sorry bud, but all the main economists disagree with you and I already pointed out your answer and why it doesn't matter.

    Now the reverse of it will be if he is not able to get taxes done, right now the markets all have that in "assumption". If he doesn't get it, the market and a lot of our economy will slump. I will first say here, COMPANY OWNERS ABSOLUTELY CHOSE WHEN TO INVEST BASED ON FEELING. Have you run a lemonade stand let alone anything else?

    There is such a noticeable jump on basically every level when he got elected.

    If you are a Liberal, your programmed answer is supposed to be "Because he is planning on letting the rich steal money from the country!"

    Everyone else has basically dropped your argument by now.....

    And as I stated above feelings from both the public and the board ABSOLUTELY matter depending on the market and the current times. I own a $20M dollar mfg business that sells clean room PPE consumables to everything from; sports equipment; military equipment, to semiconductors to medical equipment and even the surgeons themselves. Those companies would LOVE to hear you tell them that the feeling of the public means nothing to what their business will be.

    Please, educate us all
     
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    I don't think he feels any need to make anything of his Presidency. My guess is he plans to run in the next election as a victim of Congress and claim that both parties are corrupt and have conspired to prevent him from being the anointed savior of the America people.
     
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    Please feel free to provide the quotes from major economists to support your claim. Bet you can't. Now the only thing I will concede is that there was a lot of market optimism about his plan to slash taxes on the rich and supposedly reform corporate taxes although he doesn't actually seem to have any kind of actual plan.

    And I could care less about your imaginary business.
     
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    Good take. :salute:
     
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    all the main economists agree that Trump has had no effect on the economy, Draco

    it is clicking along because of the Obama years

    perhaps a new tax reform bill and a budget law may change that, but Trump is a neuter economically right now
     
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    Trump holds the high ground.
     
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    uh, Trump is in the swamp in fact

    if he can work with the Dems and Pubs to craft some legislation good for all of America, then we can re-evaluate
     
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    You are putting rational ahead of hate and retribution. Maybe, but I think otherwise. In their mind Trump illegally and improperly with malice stole the election from the Democrats. Besides, if they could impeach Trump, Pence would not be far behind. Then Pelosi could move into the white house.
     
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    Surely you jest. His cabinet picks make all previous swamps look like shallow puddles. Prove me wrong by demonstrating the credentials for DeVoss or Carson for the offices they hold. Or perhaps rationalize the roles of his daughter and son as members of the Administration, neither of whom has any qualifications whatsoever. Or explain how in any rational administration Flynn could have gotten security clearance.

    And then there is Mnuchen.
     
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    A few might think that, but I don't think the Dems as a group in the House would approve it.
     
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    Maybe........
     
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    JakeStarkey said:
    A few might think that, but I don't think the Dems as a group in the House would approve it.
    If the situation were exactly the same but the parties were switched, the GOP would try to make Ryan president. In an American heartbeat.
     
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