Al Franken accused of sexual misconduct

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  1. btthegreat

    btthegreat Well-Known Member

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    Now put aside your partisan banshee calls and pay attention. Actually there is some disagreement about what he did and did not do and the photograph can be interpreted as either a simulation of a grope for crass humor , or a physical assault, and Franken's apology is not clear. There sure is not evidence that it represents a pattern of conduct a la Cosby, Trump or Moore. Your rush to judgment before even the first meeting of a pending investigation, by a majority Republican Senate is a fascinating study of blatant partisan labeling. What's your rush that can't wait past 72 hours, AlphaOmega? Might it have something to do with marginalizing a senator that is a thorn in your side and effective opponent of your agenda?
     
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    AlphaOmega Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    al franken put his tongue into a womans mouth against her will. Do you deny this?
     
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    I neither affirm nor deny. Your rush to judgment before even the first meeting of a pending investigation, by a majority Republican Senate is a fascinating study of blatant partisan labeling. What's your rush that can't wait past 72 hours, AlphaOmega? Might it have something to do with marginalizing a senator that is a thorn in your side and effective opponent of your agenda? I prefer to wait for more facts to come out.
     
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    AlphaOmega Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    hypocrisy test. Should moore step aside? if so why?
     
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    gamewell45 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    well, thank you for your confidence in my solving the problem; just goes to show at times we can agree on some things here.
     
  6. btthegreat

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    You don't provide me a 'hypocrisy test' with two scenarios as completely disparate in almost every respect as Moore and Franken. They have almost nothing in common, from the nature of the accusations, to the quality of the evidence, to the quantity of cases, and every other objective criteria.

    One is a definite parking ticket with a no contest plea in court, while the other is two possible parking tickets and three possible cases of vehicular manslaughter and nothing but not guilty screamed at the top of his lungs without any courthouse or judge in sight!
     
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    I did. And you just failed. F
     
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    Hey teacher, I am not even in your class cuz I did not sign up. You can't grade a test I never took. I never answered your 'should Moore ' test question. and you cannot quote one. I just said you don't have a clue how to write one and you don't like that.
     
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    ohhhh...you answered alright.
     
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    Yes I did. I basically called the author of a post, a fool and an idiot without using those words. Don't compare a parking ticket with vehicular manslaughter and expect anyone to do anything but laugh .
     
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    which author?
     
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    Don't compare a parking ticket with vehicular manslaughter and expect others not to laugh .
     
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    i asked which author...youre not afraid to say are you?
     
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    How does sexual contact with a 14 year old even come CLOSE to an inappropriate kiss with a full grown woman?

    Not to mention a pattern of behavior that got Moore banned from a mall for stalking teen age girls
     
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    what sexual contact?
     
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    You're wasting your time; there are some people you cannot debate with for various reasons. You'd be better off watching a fly crawl up a drape; that would be more entertaining then attempting to debate with some people.
     
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    Which do you think is more reprehensible, a 32-year-old "dating" and acting inappropriately, sexually, with a 14 or 15-year-old who didn't want it, or a comedian posing publicly for a camera shot of him being inappropriate with an adult woman for "laughs"?
     
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    nice strawman. you left out the part where franken stuck his tongue in a womans mouth against her will. You didnt forget and since you left it out, this tells us that you know its wrong which tells me youre being dishonest. How close am I?
     
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    I'd rather watch a fly crawl up a drape...

    but technically, that is her accusation, and so far, he said he didn't think it was like that...

    hence, the investigation he is willing to undergo.
     
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    he said he didnt think it was like that?! She recoiled from him and told him to never do that again. What exactly did he remember?
     
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    He hasn't said yet as far as I know...

    he rightfully apologized, said he disagreed about what happened, or didn't remember it going down the way she described, said the photo was just a joke but he shouldn't have done it, and agreed to the idea of it being investigated by the Ethics Committee.
     
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    he doesnt remember that he stuck his tongue in her mouth and her recoiling and telling him to never do that again? He needs to step down. Hes a scumbag sexual harrasser of women.
     
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    He said he remembers it differently. Get it?

    The accuser accepted his apology and said,

    “I didn't do this to have him step down. I think Al Franken does a lot of good things in the Senate. I’m not calling for him to step down. That was never my intention.”

    Okay, back to your ranting and raving...
     
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    Should another incident like this surface it would show a pattern of behavior and I would agree.

    That hasn't happened.

    Trump has admitted to doing this and far worse an NOT apologized or admitted it in spite of SIXTEEN women coming forward and you defend him.

    Moore admits to 'dating" 16 year old girls routinely, is accused of having sexual contact with a FOURTEEN year old and was banned from a mall because of his stalking behavior of teen age girls and you defend him.

    You have ZERO credibility
     
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