Germans say Russia is more reliable than the United States

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    A new survey published by German public broadcaster ARD shows Germans trust Russia more than the US. America's brand appears to have suffered considerably since the election of Donald Trump as US president last year.

    Germans increasingly see Russia as a more reliable partner than the US, a new study released on Saturday has found.

    The poll of 1,004 people by research institute Infratest dimap showed that 28 percent of respondents felt Moscow was a reliable partner, compared to 25 percent for Washington.

    The result is the first time the public's trust in the US has fallen below Russia in over a decade. An Infratest survey of public trust in Germany's global partners in June found both countries tying at 21 percent.

    France and Britain fared far better in the German public's eyes. More than 90 percent said Paris was a reliable partner, while more than 60 percent said Britain, which has been trying to exit the European Union (EU), was a reliable partner


    US favorability falling

    The new results align with the findings of an August poll by the Pew Research Center that surveyed the public's confidence in different world leaders.

    Whereas 25 percent of Germans had confidence in Russian President Vladimir Putin, only 11 had confidence in US President Donald Trump.

    America's brand, Pew noted in an earlier study, has suffered in Germany since the election of Donald Trump in November 2016.

    Nearly 60 percent of Germans had a favorable view of the US when Trump's predecessor, Barack Obama, left office. That dropped to 35 percent at the beginning of Trump's presidency.

    The decline in Germany has reflected a worldwide trend. "Attitudes have taken a dramatic turn for the worse, especially in Western Europe and Latin America," the surveyors said.

    Pew noted that the US's favorability had only dramatically improved in one country: "Only in Russia has the image of the United States improved by a large margin."


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    Germany is in incredibly Liberal state as to the average person.

    Your chart seems incredibly simpl and proves the above fact as Macron skyrocked his country despite not doing much and now having a horrible favorability rate.

    The US voted in Trump which Russia absolutely hates as he refuses to go along with Merkel like Obama did, well that and being, as stated above, incredibly liberal on average as a nation.

    Your posts seemed to have fixated and Focussed almost directly on Russia lately ... makes me really wondrer
     
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    That isn't surprising after the G7 conference.
     
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    Yeah, where Trump barged in thinking "I'm going to solve these guys' problem, once and for all" and acted like Oliver Hardy.

    International politics isn't the piece of cake US regressives think it is. It's a walk on eggs.
     
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    In most areas like entire south and east Germany it is incredible conservative nation. Trump is seen as an Idiot, thats the problem. Trump was seen positive first by conservative here but turned out to be incompetent. Russia in the other side becomes a better Partner.
     
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    I know of few other nations that plays its card as well as Russia does. They are subtle and efficient in foreign politics. They are everywhere, and even seen as credible mediators, and yet they are pro-active. Like him or not, it looks like that Putin guy really knows what he is doing.
     
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    That's your problem not ours. Trump was elected based on issues and his platform (regardless of the lestist media whining about racism and fascism) and he is delivering big time, the economy is booming, the Euros are paying their NATO dues, the rampant illegal immigration has been curbed, the travel ban is in effect, the Paris accord is dead (at least for the US)...

    We like his America first policies and frankly there is no reason why you should. And as long as we like his policies we could not care less what Europeans brainwashed by their liberal media think. No hard feelings, ok :)
     
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    The amount of satire when American wannabe experts start talking about Europe - pure entertainment.
    Given the fact that Bush and Obama massively spied on their allies, one should think twice about who might be 'reliable' and who not.
    On the international stage it's always about the interests of every country for itself. In this context 'America first' is nothing new but decades old.
     
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    If Germany is so enamored of Russia they should rebuild the Berlin wall and give east Germany back to them
     
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    With trump at the helm what would you expect? Rocket man is more reliable than trump.
     
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    What would you expect, they are inundated with Trump hating liberal media.
     
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    There is a recession coming, just wait until the interest rates go high enough. Right now the interest rate is real low which is just creating a lot of bubbles.


     
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    Interest rates need to be higher and that's the sign of a strengthening economy. Rates have been held artificially low throughout the obama stagnation and that is ending.
     
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    You seem to live im a Dreamworld.

    US economy grows slower than ours in Europe.

    Not a single european nation raised its defense budget. Chancellor Merkel even denied to talk with Trump about this. So if they told you otherwise over there, they lied to you.

    He has not build his wall. His politics are chaotic. He hurts conservative parties globally because he is used as bad example against us.

    That he left the climate treaty damaged american economy, and we are now forced to support the climate deal or called idiots like trump.

    His american first ideology actually is good, since it favors our industry and damages the american one. Best example is his taxe against cabadian bombardier aircrafts to favor Boeing.

    In end Airbus bought Bombardier for free, has no a new product inside the US market, is able to fire american workers in Alabama, employ more in the UK and Boeing lost billions since Canada and UK cancel comtracts with Boeing. The UK even was pushed back in our arms since PM May believed in US deals after Brexit and was pushed back into reality.

    Meanwhile Boeing lost 8 billion € contracts and its CEO crawled in Europe on the floor, apologied and called Trump erratic.

    Trumps tax reform forced the EU to now tax american internet giants and Apple was the first forced to pay 18 billion €.

    You are ruled by an Idiot.
     
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    When push comes to shove....Germany will side with the US &west....not with Russia.
     
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    Germany wants gas&energy from Russia....not necessarily enamored by them,lol. One Berlin Wall was enough, and I'll agree on that.
     
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    Your “we” is a significant minority. With less than 4 in 10 Americans giving him high marks in his job approval. So there’s plenty of hard feelings right here in America. Hopefully Trump gets primaried by his own party in 20’
     
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    Um, that may be true. But this polling wasn’t of the government.
     
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    All they have to do is revalidate the Nazi-Communist pact that divided Poland
     
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    You speak as though this was a poll taken in the German government.
     
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    I don't see any logic in these discussions here.

    Yes, the German elites are deeply into leftist and liberal (in Germany the term liberal means something else than in the Anglo-Saxon discussions, so "leftist" ist the better term here) ideas, but exactly these people despise and hate Putin very deeply. They hate him, they smear him in the media, they wanna incite Russiophobia. And these idiots will continue as long as he does not organize a huge gay pride parade in Moscow with with public sodomy, as long as he will not make any affirmative action for women (at least 50% of the ministries must be theirs) and declare muslim immigrants as the future of Russia, handing them over Russian girls to rape as prey and offer every muslim 4 women infidel women to put under Islamic control at least. These are the very same people who hate Trump for very similar reason.

    More conservative people in Germany oftentimes do admire Putin for saying a big "**** you" to the very same leftist elites mentioned above. The very same people will more often go along with Trump, but dislike other US institutions. Many people who are otherwise rather anti-American support Trump, because he is fighting the left America.

    These are tendencies and not describing every individual in detail, but as a rough guide you can say this. Trump and Putin are both heroes of the people who wanna tell the leftist elites to go and **** themselves.
     
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    Well apparently they despise Trump more.
     
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    Well, Trump says everyday to them on Twitter "**** you! You are a bunch of morally rotten,physically ugly and really dumb losers. I dont give a **** what you write in your liberal media, I dont give a **** how scum like you evalutaes my politics, though all your media backup, you are so pathetic you ruined it and now its my turn!"

    Putin is more like "Well I am sorry for you, you clearly lost your mind. No, I am not interested in gender studies nor in the mass import of Islamism. And no, we dont celebrate public sodomy parties in Moscow here. I dont wanna burn bridges, if you ever wanna join the table when you see things clear again, feel welcome. So long I play with China, Russia, Turkey and the Phillipines ... Oh just FYI, please dont try any tricks again to take out the Black Sea fleet or using djihadist groupsa to destabilze my country ... please dont force me to spank you, I dont want this, I have better things to do and believe me you dont want it too!"

    In other words Putin is rather the diplomat and elder statesman, Trump is the kind of guy who say idiots like Merkel, Trudeau or these Swedish idiots in their faces what had once to be said. Plus they saw the USA as part as their family. Gay Pride, slut walk's, femen, feminism and all those cosmopolitan people the admire and wanted them to rule the country, all they loved in America and Trump took it from them ... so in person, they feel even more provoked and are angry at Trump. On the other hand, their agression against Russia as such is deeper. They see Trump as an accident and think they can get back to normal (not too far fetched as Trump is surrounded by doubtworthy US elites, but up to now he successful spits in their faces), while they plan against Russia in the long run.
     
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    Thats for sure, big question is can Trump end the Cold War, get over anti-Russian American politics and tell Angela Merkel, Martin Schulz or Cem Özdemir ... to shut up and **** off?
     
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    Wow, lmao................
     

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