Is it atheist to hate god?

I don't care what you believe.

 

When we consider the things you DO believe, I would consider you not believing me to be complimentary.

 

So, Maat, who in your opinions was worse, Stalin or the god of the Bible? [I'm trying to give you a good excuse here to condemn a dictator - doombug seems to think atheists LOVE dictators ]

 

Wait - it just hit me - religious people like our friend doombug BELIEVE in a talking snake, a talking donkey, a talking burning bush, and a talking invisible zombie from Nazareth who can magically cure death.....so I see your point, my man.

 

Many apostates can't be saved, and they will to hell. If I read the bible correctly, it is not really their fault.

Gods will.

 

Good post.
Although on a different level we DO certainly care what religious people believe because their steadfast refusal to embrace science (in favor of simple answers like "oh, well, I guess GOD DID IT") has been bringing the world down for centuries. This is so so true!:

 

So true!
Jesus WANTED people to end up in a lake of fire, and even (allegedly) TOOK SPECIFIC STEPS to see that they would end up there!
These five pictures explain it:
http://www.bricktestament.com/the_parables_of_jesus/use_of_parables_explained/mk04_33-34.html
Jesus is that way because he’s not as forgiving as you are.

Question: do you WANT people to end up in a lake of fire, and would you also take specific steps to see that they end up there, or would you do things differently?

 

GOD AS BASICALLY A CELESTIAL DICTATOR! I LOVE IT!

 

No, I CONDEMN those that approve of dictators, such as followers of Kim/Fidel/Stalin.....and also Jesus himself - who approved of dictators (kings, etc.) in the Bible. Jesus was too stupid to understand that democracy (representative republics) are what's best for the world. We are now smarter than Jesus, so we obviously don't need him anymore.

 

Most reasonable people would see my post as a question and not an attack. You are attacking me for asking a mere question. That is defensive and aggressive as well as uncalled for. Just ignore me if you don't want to engage in civil debate. This is what you did to the other poster which shuts down debate and why I asked.

 

Yes but that wasn't the point. According to the Bible Jesus came to earth to bring a New Covenant. If you don't understand that, and it appears you don't, then that explains your inability to understand my point. Again most people have a cursory knowledge of Christianity and fall back to their own agenda and self styled theology. Many understand the theology and still reject it. But they do understand. Very well.

 

God altered His role from Lawgiver of the OT to Forgiver of the NT. We were offered perpetual blanket forgiveness for all sins. I suspect this was necessary to allow our continued growth while maintaining our Free Will.
Just because the OT is still referenced as a part of the history in our collective relationship with God doesnt mean that we are still subject to all of its expectations. Obviously, we cannot love eachother as Christ directed while still following all of the old Laws.

 

LOL! Atheists denying their past leaders is much like democrats denying their past and Jim Crow.....

 

Atheists don't believe there is a god.. What is it that you're confused about?

 

Yes, I condemn those leaders....can you condemn Jesus?

 

Well, you believe in fairy tales and magic snakes, so who cares if you believe it or not?

 

In other words he got it WRONG the first time, so he needed a "do-over" to get it right. Doesn't sound "all-knowing" to me, that's for sure!

 

The NT gave us Revelation and it's "hell", which is much more barbaric than the "Sheol" of the OT.....so Jesus of the NT is arguably more of a savage barbarian than the god of the OT - who by comparison, was warm and cuddly.

 

The exact same can be said about you and your posts. Nothing like an attack from a theist to justify any criticism.

 

Im not confused about anything. Im making a passive-aggressive accusation that a good many 'atheists' are actually closet theists that believe in God but hate Him because He represents an antithesis to their ideology of State worship.

By 'good many' I mean a very small but loud minority that I believe seek to 'proselytize' a political agenda of collectivism and authoritarianism by denegrating the individualism inherent in human Free Will- Gods greatest creation and gift.

Im attempting to counter their dishonest claims with the notion that instead of trying to free mankind from some tyranny of the mind of loyalty to a creator, they are in fact trying to enslave the human mind to control by The State, which is controlled by man.

Or, in short, a few of your 'atheist' brethren are merely interested in having us worship men as 'God' instead.

 

Nonsense - The NT and the OT both say for Christians to obey the laws of the OT in at least 13 verses:

Jesus says that the Old Testament laws are binding on everyone forever. He hasn't the slightest objection to the cruelties of the Old Testament. Credit http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/mt/5.html
Matthew 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill.

5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

5:19 So if you ignore the least commandment and teach others to do the same, you will be called the least in the Kingdom of Heaven. But anyone who obeys God’s laws and teaches them will be called great in the Kingdom of Heaven.

Luke 24:45 Then he opened their minds to understand the Scriptures. 46And he said, “Yes, it was written long ago that the Messiah would suffer and die and rise from the dead on the third day. 47It was also written that this message would be proclaimed in the authority of his name to all the nations,f beginning in Jerusalem: ‘There is forgiveness of sins for all who repent.’ 48You are witnesses of all these things.]

Genesis 17:19
And God said, Sarah thy wife shall bear thee a son indeed; and thou shalt call his name Isaac: and I will establish my covenant with him for an everlasting covenant, and with his seed after him.

Exodus 12:14, 17, 24
And this day shall be unto you for a memorial; and ye shall keep it a feast to the LORD throughout your generations; ye shall keep it a feast by an ordinance forever. ... And ye shall observe the feast of unleavened bread; for in this selfsame day have I brought your armies out of the land of Egypt: therefore shall ye observe this day in your generations by an ordinance forever. ... And ye shall observe this thing for an ordinance to thee and to thy sons forever.

Leviticus 23:14,21,31
It shall be a statute for ever throughout your generations.

Deuteronomy 4:8-9
What nation is there so great, that hath statutes and judgments so righteous as all this law, which I set before you this day? ... teach them thy sons, and thy sons' sons.

Deuteronomy 7:9
Know therefore that the LORD thy God, he is God, the faithful God, which keepeth covenant and mercy with them that love him and keep his commandments to a thousand generations.

Deuteronomy 11:1
Therefore thou shalt love the LORD thy God, and keep his charge, and his statutes, and his judgments, and his commandments, always.

Deuteronomy 11:26-28
Behold, I set before you this day a blessing and a curse; A blessing, if ye obey the commandments of the LORD your God, which I command you this day: And a curse, if ye will not obey the commandments of the LORD your God.

1 Chronicles 16:15
Be ye mindful always of his covenant; the word which he commanded to a thousand generations ... an everlasting covenant.

Psalm 119:151-2
Thou art near, O LORD; and all thy commandments are truth. Concerning thy testimonies, I have known of old that thou hast founded them forever.

Psalm 119:160
Thy word is true from the beginning: and every one of thy righteous judgments endureth forever.

Malachi 4:4
Remember ye the law of Moses.

Luke 16:17
It is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one tittle of the law to fail.

 

The NT also gave us the precedent that you only go to Hell if you prefer it. As many claim, why would God want to force anyone into heaven that would revile it? Hell is merely an option for those who would find an eternity in God's presence to be... hellish.

 

But, but, but if I believe in magic unscientific illogical stuff then Jesus will magically let me survive my own death!!!!!! I chose to let FEAR, and not logic, run my life!!!!!!!!!

 

I DON'T want to go to hell, AND I demand a scientifically-correct (after all, if god is real HE would have set up the rules of science!!) religion. That's too much to ask for the creator of science ("god")???

 

Why should I condemn Jesus when I disagree with you about him?