Incidentally, any developed nation have a black majority?

yes, there are some but usually small countries places like Bermuda... Still, by and large, the most developed, more prosperous Countries have either a white or asian majority,

 

This was your ONLY criteria that you established in your OP;

The nations that I provided are sufficiently developed enough to rank in the top 30 nations by the IMF, World Bank and the CIA.

You then disingenuously altered your criteria to per capita GDP because it didn't suit your dubious agenda to be proven wrong.

That is the substance of what has happened here.

When you move the goalposts you can expect to be called out for doing so.

 

So you don't actually want responses that shoot your nonsense in the ass .

Oh

 

This is one of the biggest problems in America today, people wanting to suppress truths. It is a fact that almost all (with rare exceptions like small islands) of the most advanced, developed, prosperous nations have a mostly non-black population. This is simply a fact and worthy of debate, to understand why. The typical response from leftists like you is to quiet, hide, suppress these facts because you don't like it. It's the same when leftists can't even utter the phrase radical Islam, a fact of life. It's the same when people mention that even though blacks are only 13% of population, they commit over 50% of the murder.

You and your kind want to tell us to 'HUSH, HUSH..DON'T SPEAK THESE TRUTHS!' and the way to silence us is to threaten us with violence by accusing us of being racists. It is because of people like you that problems are never addressed because you don't want people to even talk about these things. Ignoring facts, not wanting to debate problems or understand why things are as they are is a problem. This is why, for instance, democrats have done nothing about black on black crime (by far the biggest issue blacks face) because they never want to talk about it.

You are a much a bigger problem for the people you seek to protect or claim you represent than people like me, who actually want to understand the issues and debate them, so we can address them. You are not seeking solutions to problems, you want to not debate the problems because you can't face them or accept them. You ARE the problem.

 

I initially said developed Countries and then looked up developed countries and listed for you what CIA considered developed (you also mentioned CIA).
i used the list from CIA and also provide GDP per capita because it is a measure of prosperity, it's just common sense. You instead used meaningless pics (worthy of a prize for lack of substance). Also, even if we use the list you provided, you could only point to a couple that had a black majority, like over 90% of your cherry picked list includes Countries with non-black majority.

the fact is that almost all of the most developed, prosperous Countries have a non-black majority. Lastly, i never said no Country with a black majority is considered developed as a matter of fact (based on reputable institution's criteria), i merely stated i couldn't think of any. Since then some have mentioned a few - Bermuda, Trinidad and Tobago..small islands.

 

This thread belongs in the Stormfront section

 

I think this is blown way out of proportion.

Trump has bene getting things done - appointed a conservative judge, historic tax cuts, de-regulating, approving oil drilling in places where libs didn't want it. The economy is booming, illegal immigration at its lowest in decades, arrests of MS13 gang members at record levels. He has shown strength in foreign affairs, keeping Assad at bay with the missile strike, telling Iran to f off, scaring NK.. Trump is more respected by enemies than Obama, enemies took advantage of Obama.

So here's the deal, liberals know it's extremely hard to fight Trump on any of this and hate how much he is getting done. What are they going fight him on? They want to increase taxes? increase regulations? be nicer to enemies? appoint liberal judges? ease off on illegal immigration? Take is easier on MS13 gangs? debate Trump on economy? See the problem? So.... what do they do? attack him personally, this is the strategy -

He has dementia
He is a racist
He is a misogynist
He colluded with Russia
He is an authoritarian

see the pattern? They cannot successfully fight Trump on any of the aforementioned policies or accomplishments so they focus on all this dumb sh%t, truly a disgrace and shows the complete implosion in democrats party.

As it relates to him being an authoritarian, it's greatly exaggerated. He is used to being a CEO who gets things done and now fighting government bureaucracy. Also, Trump doesn't want to control or suppress free media, he just wants to hold them accountable. It's interesting how the MSM thinks they can attack someone 24/7 and be biased but no-one can criticize them? Isn't this funny? Quite the double standard, Trump just wants them to be fair and not attack him 24/7 with 90% negative coverage (since 2016). This is a disgrace and the MSM should be attacked for being so biased, i would say FOX should also be attacked for being biased on the right too. So is this why Trump is an authoritarian?

 

Ok, but that is a modern phenomenon. Between the collapse of the Roman Empire and Renaissance Europe, the most developed countries were by and large Asians. Not just East Asians, which is what you mean when you say Asian, but all kinds of Asians. Persians, Arabs, Indians, and Han Chinese peoples (with some Nomadic peoples coming in to control some of those peoples also in the mix). We are in one particular moment in human history that is the result of a series of historical moments so numerous and varied as to be impossible to completely discern, and in this moment European and East Asian societies are in ascendance. If this was a societal question, it would be more interesting. What makes societies succeed at certain moments when others fail? That is an interesting question. The racial question is one some one can only ask with historical blinders. Vikings were living in ****, using rape as a means of social bargaining 1,000 years ago (as in you killed my cow, I get to rape your daughter. That is real by the way.), while Arabs in the "House of Wisdom" were keeping Greek texts alive, naming the stars, and advancing mathematics. If racial determinism had any explanatory value, whites (and the celebrated Scandinavians, aka the vikings) would have always been in the ascendance. They haven't been, so something else must be at work.

 

If I had more time I could rebut every accomplishment you have pointed to. However, I don't, so I'll just do a bit.

First the most absurd. Our "enemies" don't respect him. Do you forget that Kim Jong Un called him a dotard? That is not a sign of respect!! In fact it is quite literally the exact opposite of that. Which other enemies are you referencing?

He hasn't done anything to change Iranian behavior. He has made North Korea worse, not better. Lastly, Assad is close to winning the Syrian Civil war, how is that "at bay?"

Next up, the economy is booming how? It is on a trajectory that is identical to the one it was on before he took office. This is the Dow Jones. If you took a ruler put it at the bottom in the heart of the financial crisis, then put the other end at now, the line you would draw would be essentially straight. Why does Donald Trump deserve any credit?




The thing is as well, I predicted this exact thing would happen. I knew the short term outlook for the US economy was quite strong before he took office. The Euro is still completely unstable and its problems haven't even remotely been solved, and investors don't trust Chinese markets, and until they do investors are going to put all their money in the US. That has nothing to do with Donald Trump and everything to do with macroeconomic trends he had nothing to do with. The presidents ability to control the economy is vastly, massively, absurdly overstated.

PS. The stock market is also a terrible indicator of the strength of the US economy these days in light of this.

 

Damn man, a guy have to sleep. If you had any you would be more logical. You are all over the map with your Ill logic.

 

Putting CNN, WAPO, BBC, NPR, PBS, AP, NYT, Economist, and Big Three news in the "unbiased" center of media is the most absurd, hilarious thing I've seen posted on the forum this week, maybe all month. Thanks for the laugh. You have exactly -0- credibility going forward in this or other discussions here after posting that... unless it's a purposeful troll, if so, good one, you got me. 7/10 troll score.

 

Botswana sounds nice.

This thread got me curious, so I did some reading. I'd like to go there and see it for myself. Their biggest problem seems to be that they are very dependant on rich economies. Their biggest industries are diamond mining and safari-tourism. They have a fledgling meat production industry which, hopefully, will add to their economic diversity as it develops.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maun,_Botswana

 

You would probably like the book "Why Nations Fail." It addresses and confirms many of the points that you make.

 

First, I didn't create that. Second, of course. Only liars and partisan hacks don't accept that.

 

AH, not a troll then. Too bad, -0- credibility it is for you going forward.

Tell us some more about moderate, unbiased CNN. ROFLMFAO.

 

That infographic put CNN right where it belongs. Click-bait for the television. Their only bias is towards making money. Just like every other corporate entity in the world. Its all just a product. Wake up and stop believing lies. People love to have their preconceptions confirmed. It makes them feel good, so news organizations sell that as a product. MSNBC sells the reproduction of preconceptions to liberals of below average intelligence. Fox news sells the same product to conservatives of below average intelligence. Vox and the Atlantic do the same, but for liberals of above average intelligence. And the Wall Street Journal does the same for Conservatives of above average intelligence. Of course individuals at media outlets have their own biases, but the institutions only have biases towards profit making. That is an objective fact. So like I said, people who deny it are either liars or partisan hacks.

 

So you're argument involves total GDP and pictures of skyscrapers?

Aggregate economic size isn't used in calculating development because it's often a function of population. Nigeria is the 7th largest country in the world. It's per capita GDP, you now the metric that measure how well individuals are doing, is in the bottome half globally.

I can't wait to hear how great things are in North Korea.

 

Stopped reading there, my keyboard can't take any more milk.

 

Obama was naive and tried to play nice and what did Iran do? continue funding terrorist activities and disrespect the USA, remember when they embarrassed USA navy by capturing them at sea? I bet they would think twice about doing this with Trump. You may think Trump is a joke and you may think enemies respect him less but Trump's national security team don't play games.

As far as Assad goes, remember that Trump ran a campaign stating that he believes the USA should side with Assad as to fight ISIS? Trump's core message was that the USA had to pick a side and not fight everyone at once, his priority was destroy ISIS. Having said this, remember Obama's red line? he never honored it and Obama did nothing when Assad gassed his own people. Trump didn't hesitate to teach Assad a lesson, NO MORE GASSING OF CITIZENS.

NK. Sure Kim Jong-Un is barking a lot but what do you expect him to do? just be submissive and bow down to Trump? He HAS to act tough or else look weak. Having said this, I guarantee you that Kim fears Trump and his security team MUCH more than Obama. Trump's strategy has been to be unpredictable and not mess around. Tell me, what has the strategic patience accomplished with NK for decades? nothing, Kin has continued doing his thing. We will see what happens but i bet my life that Kim fears Trump more, the fact that he barks so much tells me it's out of fear, he's rattled.

Economy. It is incredibly disingenuous to attribute the rise in business confidence to Obama policies and not credit Trump. First and foremost, the economy shrinks, recovers and expands and oftentimes presidents are just there for the ride. The recovery from the 08 crisis would've come no matter whether it was Obama or someone else in office. Sometimes presidents get credit for economic ups and downs when they they shouldn't but what they can do is either slow down recoveries, slow down expansions or exacerbate economic downturns.

So, we all know that a recovery was coming post 08/09, the question is did Obama slow the recovery or help it? The evidence shows that the stock market went up (it had to as it was so depressed), jobs were created but GDP growth was lackluster and things started to sort of flatten out before Trump took office. It is my view that the Obama recovery was held down by over regulation and lack of confidence in a president that wasn't a business person but a career government bureaucrat. The private sector's successes have a lot to do with confidence, confidence in that the government won't interfere, over-regulate, over tax, confidence in that the president understand business and will create an environment for business to thrive. Obama NEVER projected this confidence, he always talked about the bad banks, the regulations needed, the taxes needed...the ACA itself was not a business friendly legislation.

If you look at GDP growth, it was a mere 1-2% and since Trump has taken office, has gone up. If you look at stock market, yes it had gone up from historic lows but had sort of plateaued. As soon as Trump took office it has shot up and shot up FAST and what's impressive is that it has shot up from already historic highs, much more difficult to achieve than from historic lows. Then several business confidence indicators are up from the obama years.

I don't know what field of work you are in but i can tell you that without a doubt, Trump's tax, regulatory policies and promises have really helped business confidence and when the business sector is confident, the sky is the limit. I truly think GDP will continue to rise as the regulatory and tax environments are becoming more business friendly. Do not underestimate the confidence that it gives the private sector that one of their own is the president and not some career politician that doesn't know business.

 

Collectivist and leftist in nature.

 

The bolded part is not true. Chinese women’s role is decidedly not confined to home; in fact, outside the poorest areas girls nowadays are encouraged to excel in school and women are expected to work outside home and build careers. Also, the “leftover” women phrase was first coined by citizens, especially male netizens and the government, to its credit, held state run shows trying to address the pressure faced by young women.

It’s Chinese culture that is more traditional and conservative, and patriarchal I might add.

The rest is more or less true. Though I wouldn’t call any present day Chinese president a dictator since nowadays Chinese presidents are selected through their own internal process (aka power struggle) and have a term limit of 10 years max, and let’s just say they will not be allowed to act the way Kim in NK is. But the communist party still has unrelenting power.

 

Certainly not by a bunch of links to opinions or just plain irrelevancies. And I don't dare people to debunk things. Just provide arguments so we have some basis for conversation. Opinions are great, and I have tons of them, but it's nice to know how a person forms an opinion.

Oh, and throwing up a wall of links is not an argument.

 

Politically speaking, they have the minds of small children, plus the fact that they're still socially tribal and clan-based in nature doesn't help.

That's because they were still chucking spears.

That's what people who can't handle reality say.

 

You are right on the first point, wrong on the second. Then again, you know nothing about China, so your opinion really doesn't matter.

 

Racism is alive and well here it seems