Incidentally, any developed nation have a black majority?

I did google it, and have to admit that those are pretty impressive. Take a mountain of a rock and chisel a building out of it?

I do have to admit that those ethiopians certainly knew their way around chisels and rocks. And Lalibela a christian, no less.

Of course, by that time, the Colosseum was already being recycled, so I mean... not terribly impressive in the great scheme of things.

 

I often marvel at how impressed some people are by their own ignorance. I've stopped being surprised at the lengths people will go to in buttressing a personal prejudice. The inability to simply accept the impressive achievements of an African civilization says a lot about you.

You look at a few photos on the internet and think you have something to say about a place like this. I've walked through the Colosseum, the temples of Ancient Greece, Angkor Wat, Stonehenge and more great buildings and ancient ruins than I care to list. Walking into a beautiful two story building carved out of solid rock matches any of those experiences. Even more remarkable is that the culture that produced it still thrives and uses those buildings as intended. That is just as impressive.

Of course, you will never comprehend that and you are to be pitied for it.

 

I hate to break it to you but the Temple of Yeha was probably built during the reign of King Solomon of Israel, and it's not unlikely they may have brought in outside architects. Ethiopia has a long historical tradition going back to this time.

Have you ever gone to an Ethiopian restaurant called "Queen of Sheba"? (seems like every other Ethiopian restaurant is named Queen of Sheba) This is the same Queen Sheba in the Bible.

By the way, according to Ethiopian tradition the queen got pregnant by Solomon and so many of the royal household were descended from the Israelites. Obviously that would have gotten more diluted as time went past.

At that time Yemen and Ethiopia may have been under the same kingdom. You might want to research Ethiopians that converted to Jewdaism in ancient times and also the Himyarite kingdom. There may well have been a small jewish community in Ethiopia in ancient times, that was certainly the case in Yemen.

 

You are not breaking anything to me.

People all around the world have been building shelters since they stopped living in caves. Some have survived like those in New Grange, Ireland while most have not. The use of precision in building is relatively recent but that some of those older structures still stand today is a testament to the math and engineering that was involved. Africa has the oldest know math artifacts in the world.

http://solarey.net/ancient-african-mathematics-ishango-bone-26000-years-old/

 

I'm still not seeing signs of significant African civilization here, but I will point out that the Africans may have sent a few small trading expeditions to the New World before the discovery by Columbus. Columbus mentioned in his journals that some of the natives he encountered had bronze spear tips identical in design to those that were in Africa. (You can read more about this elsewhere)

 

I've been to angkor wat, and it's not just a single building, but an entire city.

Sorry, but your hovel doesn't compare at all.

 

I claimed that politically speaking, Africans have the minds of small children, plus they are still socially tribal and clan-based in nature, which doesn't help.

Your deliberate twisting is disingenuous, but typical of people lacking any substantive argument.

The fact that there aren't any stable democracies, and that the vast majority of African States are grossly underdeveloped on every level is proof enough.

 

To claim blacks have the minds of small children is racist and without evidence

 

some evidence suggests they were, in many areas.

 

Not to mention patronizing.

The San people have survived in the Kalahari for 20,000 years but I doubt that anyone who makes those kinds of odious racist comments could survive for more than a week.

 

And only became farmers in the 1950s.

Intelligence doesn't necessarily equate to survivability. Cockroaches aren't all that intelligent, but they certainly are a very robust species who have survived for millions of years in all sorts of environments. Plankton has been with us since the very beginning, but nobody would accuse plankton of being particularly intelligent.

 

Who was accusing the obnoxious racist white supremacist nazis of being even remotely as intelligent as those other species you mentioned?

Anyone with any degree of intelligence knows that survival is about having the flexibility to adapt to changing environments. Intelligence does not seem to be helping a sector of the population comprehend that climate change is happening and that unless they are prepared to adapt they could doom the entire human species and a great many others to extinction.

 

Don't worry. We conservatives, plankton, and cockroaches will survive. Communists... no.

The problem with your rebuttal is that you used a society which has been in the kalahari desert for 20,000 years, and now want to talk about intelligence being required to have the ability to adapt to changing environments, despite just a post ago, you used that society's ability to survive in the same environment for 20,000 years as proof of intelligence.

 

The racists don't have a clue about the historical context that you point out.

 

Lol...What are you good at besides spouting and endless diarrhea of racist drivel?

 

This is completely untrue. Japan, Korean, and China have cultures that are centuries old. Where did you go to school?

Japanese legend maintains that Japan was founded in 600 BC by the Emperor Jimmu.

China is one of the world's oldest civilizations. China's civilization is believed to be at least 5,000 years old, but may be even older, possibly as old as 10,000 years.

Korea: Settled, literate societies on the Korean peninsula appear in Chinese records as early as the fourth century BCE. Gradually, competing groups and kingdoms on the peninsula merged into a common national identity. After a period of conflict among the “Three Kingdoms”—Koguryo in the north, Paekche in the southwest, and Silla in the southeast—Silla defeated its rivals and unified most of the Korean peninsula in 668 CE. Korea reached close to its present boundaries during the Koryo Dynasty (918-1392), from which its Western name “Korea” is derived. The succeeding Choson Dynasty (1392-1910) further consolidated Korea’s national boundaries and distinctive cultural practices.

Russia: The traditional beginning of Russian history is 862 A.D

 

I suppose the question is do you think that Nazi society was more advanced that those of the French and British because of their technical superiority?

 

This would certainly be one measure but i would need to do some more analysis around income, GDP and other metrics to give you a definitive answer. Unfortunately, i don't have all these in front of me.

What are you getting at? are you saying that europeans were only technical superior to native Indians? or people in Africa? Technical superiority is a major attribute.

 

Top 25 Countries with highest murder rates. Pretty much all (with few exceptions) in South America, Carribean and Africa, plus Mexico. Pretty much all have mostly black populations. When Trump calls these places sh&tholes, why does it have anything to do with race and not to do with the fact that they are actually sh&holes! ?

https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/murder-rates-by-country.html

 

I'm talking about countries, and you are talking about cultures. apples and oranges, my friend.

 

My point is that technical superiority does not necessarily equate to being more advanced. Neither does GDP.

 

They are certainly major indicators. A country with a military that uses spears and horses is likely less developed and advanced than a Country that has advanced aircraft, carriers and tanks. There is high correlation here.

 

I think quality of life is a major factor. I recall going to a tropical island in the Pacific where people lived in villages without electricity. People were well fed and lived off the land. They walked around without shoes and had quite a bit of leisure time. They were quite intelligent as well. In my opinion that's advanced. Simple living and high thinking.

 

you are confusing happiness with development. Some of the happiest people have little and some of the most miserable have it all. Being happy and living off the land doesn't make you developed.

and usually simple living doesn't quite correlate with being advanced. Indians in the amazon forest live like simple beings, see if they have any sort of advancement.

in any event, i think you are arguing a non-winnable argument just for the sake of it. If your implication is that Europeans weren't more advanced than the countries they conquered, probably not well backed up argument.

I also read some laughable posts here that claim that Europeans devastated cultures and left after devastation. What a pathetic way to find excuses for degenerate cultures in some More often than not, when a more advanced culture conquers, they bring advancement.

I can think of many examples but Zimbabwe is a perfect one. Zimbabwe was actually a prosperous Country that was growing when whites were in control. Then what happened? Blacks revolted, kicked out whites and seized property and took control. A strong man black dictator took over, promising to give the Country back to its people 'blacks'. Well, they have being destroying the Country for decades. Many black people in Zimbabwe even openly admit it was a mistake and that they weren't ready to run a Country, that they were better off before.

you can find the same in virtually every other Country in similar conditions. Haiti did much better when it was a French colony. Ever since its independence, it was been deteriorating steadily. The French didn't devastate Haiti, it was the Haitians... they have destroyed the Country.

 

I think the mistake that you are making is that you don't realize that the purpose of development is for the sake of maintaining and increasing happiness. Therefore I say that society wherein the inhabitants are happy, are the most developed.