Postal worker admits he burned 20 tubs of mail

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  1. gamewell45

    gamewell45 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If you were to eliminate all the public sector unions what would prevent the managers from hiring bad employees?? You still have fully answered my question.
     
  2. Professor Peabody

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    It wouldn't, but they can easily be fired.
     
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    Do you think classroom lessons plan themselves, and homework, classwork, and exams are corrected and graded by elves?
    Teachers in many states have no union.

    If teaching is such a wonderful job, how come we have shortages of teachers, especially in the sciences, computers, mathematics, and the skilled trades? Here's why ... annual teacher pay...

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    Yeah, we know... you work hard and everyone else is lazy and stupid. :yawn:
     
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    Good advice, but unrealistic in terms of the likely outcome.
     
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    How about eliminating management that gives up the option to fire bad workers instead of taking away the right of workers to quit their jobs?
     
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    Are you trying to tell me no one is more underpaid or treated like a slave than a school teacher? I can think of a thousand jobs where the people are treated far more unfairly, both financially and otherwise, than a teacher. So what is your point? They still get a nice pension just like most government workers, but most in the private sector have nothing. That is because we are powerless to stop the govt from feeding itself.

    https://www.teacherpensions.org/blog/what-average-teacher-pension-my-state

    I do have a lot of respect for teachers even after having made those points? Why? Because liberals have ruined this nation and have made it impossible for teachers and schools to discipline disruptive bad kids. Because parents are idiots and egotistical bastards who defend their lazy useless children making it impossible for teachers to do their job as well. Because teachers have to put up with unruly, swearing, cocky sh-t heads in class. And because teachers' unions are so political and liberal they have lost the way.
     
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    Lol. Oh you guys....
     
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    Mine always delivers my mail on time and if there's a box, he leaves it either on the seat of my lawn mower behind my house or in the front seat of my truck if the weather forecast is bad. But I live in a small town and was friends with his nephew in high school so that might be why. Only once have I had a bad experience and that was because he was out that day. Some woman delivered the mail and since I had two packages and only one fit in my mail box, she took the other one back to the post office. Idiot.
     
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    Mail service is something of a crap shoot since the bad employees cannot be fired unless they kill someone
     
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    that doesn't solve the problem of hiring bad employees does it?
     
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    I love attacking a workforce in the many hundreds of thousands for in this case the deed of one mail person.

    With logic being so weak in the nation it is more then understandable that we had ended up electing a low grade con man as president.
     
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    So you would rather hire bad employees that CAN'T be fired?
     
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    Then they didn't work hard enough.
     
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    The con man is doing what Obama failed at.
     
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    Why is it the same people who hate unions are the same people who hate this country?

    Con artists' idea of hard work and a person in tip-top physical shape..........
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    Bush-era law gouging U.S. Postal Service | News

    Embedded in the law is a requirement that the Postal Service put 80 percent of its retiree health benefits for the next 75 years into a newly created Postal Service Retiree Health Benefits Fund. The payments are to be made at a highly accelerated rate that amounts to a total cost to the USPS of more than $5 billion each year through 2016. According to Fredric Rolando, president of the National Association of Letter Carriers, the Postal Service is essentially being asked to pay the future health benefits of employees that don’t even work for it yet.

    By contrast, most private sector companies pre-fund just 30 percent of future retiree health care costs, if they do so at all, and no government agency is required to pony up as much as the USPS for future benefits.

    So the postal service is funding future health benefits for people not even born.
     
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    Teacher are not "slaves," so why go there? Your comment about teachers only working nine months per year is a misrepresentation of the facts, deliberate or otherwise.
    No, that's not why most workers in the private sector are not receiving pensions.

    Teachers' pensions are part of their salary. Even fewer people would be interested in teaching if the pensions were ended. We'd have to pay them more money up front.
    American schools never were very good, so the problems go well beyond discipline.
    It's not as bad as you think in most schools.
    The problems are no better in states where there are no teachers' unions.
     
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    We have a long-term declining growth problem that no one, including Trump, has addressed.

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    See if you can restrain your urge to propagandize the forum.
     
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    I shouldn't have to explain to you why everyone who might work hard can't end up in the top 1%.
     
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    Any bad employee can be fired; with a union you just need to have just cause and prove it if they are union. It's called due process; most people who are accused of a crime are entitled to that; there is no rational reason why workers shouldn't have the same rights.

    Hiring managers who properly vett potential employees will go a long way in preventing situations like this from occurring. The main problem is that managers hire these bad employees and then blame it on the union due to their incompetence in their hiring practices.
     
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    Additionally, craft employees do not have to join the union, but the union is required to represent these deadbeat freeloaders anyway; these
    freeloaders have the right to sue the union if it makes even an honest mistake in their representation of the freeloader.
     
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    That is very true; in right-to-work (right-to-starve) states, this is a common practice by freeloaders. If you live in an agency fee payer state, while you don't have to join the union, you still have to pay a fee equal to what your dues, initiation and other fees would normally be which is fine since they benefit from contract maintenance and representation.
     
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    Clerk Craft and USPS Agree on $36 Million Remedy Settlement for Violations Regarding Sales Retention Teams
    And you know those freeloaders will be first in line to get their greedy little hands on part of that settlement, much in the same
    way Republicans are always first in line for their government handout.
     

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