Democrats Just Admitted Their Goal is to Shutdown the Government .....

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  1. Stevew

    Stevew Well-Known Member

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    Wrong you are. Dems are going down the tubes so fast it'll make your head spin. A memo from the House Intel Committee is currently being held up by dems who fear the repercussions of massive fraud by bureaucrats and dems.

    Steve
     
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    We should already be past this. Donald lied and promised he would sign whatever bill Congress gave him. Then he made additional demands and broke his promise, once again

    Pretty easy to see where the blame lies.
     
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    It is ironic that after 8 years of the Republicans ranting about the deficit, and Donald promising he'd eliminate the debt over 8 years, here the Republicans are again fighting to raise more debt.

    Remember when Republican pretended they cared about the debt? Until Jan 20, 2017.
     
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    Just proof of your own brainwashing and likely also because you don't understand how the economy works.

    Steve
     
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    Of course it is.

    Durbin proved the Democrats have no desire to deal with DACA.

    Schumer and his fellow Democrats in the Senate are holding the country hostage on a political maneuver intended to be used as part of their mid term campaign.

    It's blackmail pure and simple.
     
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    Illegal immigrants first, the new dem party platform.
     
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    I thought that's what that big televised show was about and both sided tossed out idea's while Trump agreed and commented on them.. I guess Ol Mitch was nodding off in class ;)
     
  8. MMC

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    So now you know you were completely wrong on who is shutting down the government, and you simply don't care that its your Masters. The Demo Party.

    Thanks for validating that for all of us here.
     
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    Thanks for validating that you don't know what bicameral means.

    As Trump never said he would sign a bill that just comes from the Senate.
     
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    2016
    "We’ve got to get rid of the $19 trillion in debt. ... Well, I would say over a period of eight years. And I’ll tell you why.”
    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m.../promise/1418/eliminate-federal-debt-8-years/

    2018
    The Trump Budget Legacy: A Permanent $1 Trillion Federal Deficit
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/stanco...nent-1-trillion-federal-deficit/#5eef61087a65
     
  11. MMC

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    More like Democrats first.....The People, Repubs and Country last!

    Back to singing......Its my party and I'll cry when I want to.
     
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    Democrats have openly stated the are against continued funding of the government. Don't know how you get around that.
     
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    Democrats feel that with the media firmly in their camp they can blame this on Republicans but I don't think they will get away with it this time. It's obvious to anyone who's paying attention what the Democrats are doing here. I guess the only question now is what percentage of America is really paying attention. Looks like we may find out.
     
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    assuming unanimous Democratic support, but not quite to the 60-vote threshold needed to advance legislation.

    White House chief of staff John Kelly said Wednesday that the bill didn't meet the bipartisan and bicameral standard set by the President.

    "His sense was, two things. It fell short of certainly what he was looking for based on the Thursday conversation and other conversations," Kelly said. "But more to the point, it did not include all of the senators that have been involved in all of the discussions about DACA and certainly did not involve the House."

    Sens. Thom Tillis, R-North Carolina, and James Lankford, R-Oklahoma, said in a joint statement Wednesday evening they would oppose the bill because it "falls short" on border security reforms.

    Conservative hard-liners Senate Judiciary Chairman Chuck Grassley and Sens. Tom Cotton, R-Arkansas, and David Perdue, R-Georgia, also slammed the bill in a joint statement. They were previously negotiating with the group, but were left out of meetings over disagreements.

    And White House legislative director Marc Short, coming out of lengthy meetings with lawmakers on different sides of the issue, said the President was still looking for a deal that covered only existing DACA recipients, not a broader population, and a curtailing of family-based migration that goes beyond only those affected by a DACA measure -- two elements inconsistent with the Durbin bill.....snip~

    http://www.cnn.com/2018/01/17/politics/dreamers-bill-immigration-graham-durbin-congress/index.html


    I think we can expect the leftness to run away from this issue now. Looks like they will be forced to go back to their Russian Collusion theory.
     
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    Uhm, by changing the subject and talking about what Trump said with the economy. :razz:
     
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    Americans are not fooled. Republicans control both houses of Congress and the presidency.

    Just as they had the power to repeal the Affordable Care Act unilaterally, they have the power to pass the very popular DACA program and fund the government.

    If they fail to do so, it is not because anyone else prevents them from doing so.
     
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  18. Josephwalker

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    They will be if Democrats get their way. Let me ask you this. Would you be OK with dreamers getting citizenship but without the right to vote for twenty years? If this is a humanitarian issue and not a vote getting issue you should be fine with that. Your answer is?
     
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    Some Democrats, as a partisan matter, take a perverse delight in watching Republicans, who have the power to fund the government and pass DACA, befoul themselves by failing to do either.

    That is very naughty of those Democrats.
     
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    Aint happenin! [​IMG]


    9:25 p.m.

    House Speaker Paul Ryan and other Republicans are blaming a potential government shutdown on Senate Democratic Leader Chuck Schumer, even promoting a website called www.schumershutdown.com.

    Ryan and other GOP leaders are urging Schumer and Senate Democrats to support a four-week spending bill approved by the House Thursday night, saying they were the only ones standing in the way of keeping the government open......snip~

    http://www.chron.com/news/politics/...mp-pushes-back-against-aide-over-12506781.php


    Ohio Senator Rob Portman on the Looming Shutdown Crisis, and the Need to Deal with Opioid Abuse in America

    Texas Senator John Cornyn on the Shutdown, Immigration, CIA Scandal

    Oklahoma Senator James Lankford on a Possible Senate Rules Change to Stop Dem Stonewalling of Nominees, Immigration reform, and Whether a Government Shutdown Is Happening Friday


    While members of the CHC publicly say they will reject any deal that kills the visa lottery program, privately some members have said they’re open to the idea if the Temporary Protected Status is saved. But that plan doesn’t sit well with members of the CBC, who maintain they’re dedicated to saving the Dreamers but not at the expense of losing the visa lottery.

    “It would be a line in the sand,” said one Democratic aide familiar with the situation. “Totally unacceptable.”.....snip~

    https://www.politico.com/story/2018/01/11/democrats-daca-dreamers-immigration-mutiny-334454
     
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    Now for a dose of reality. That which you are unable to grasp. :laughing:


    While members of the CHC publicly say they will reject any deal that kills the visa lottery program, privately some members have said they’re open to the idea if the Temporary Protected Status is saved. But that plan doesn’t sit well with members of the CBC, who maintain they’re dedicated to saving the Dreamers but not at the expense of losing the visa lottery.

    “It would be a line in the sand,” said one Democratic aide familiar with the situation. “Totally unacceptable.”.....snip~

    https://www.politico.com/story/2018/01/11/democrats-daca-dreamers-immigration-mutiny-334454


    You need some new talking points. As NBC set your kind out. Put your kind on display and gave your kind the blame. :lol:
     
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    Democrats can shut it down in the Senate.
     
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    Funding government and passing DACA are two separate issues and that's why Democrats will get the blame for this.
     
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    Correct.....Americans are not fooled. Kind of hard to be fooled with Chucky Cheese Schumer validating who is shutting the government down.


    9:35 p.m.

    Minority Leader Chuck Schumer says Senate Democrats would support a "very short-term" government-wide funding bill to avert a shutdown.

    The New York Democrat says his party would accept a stopgap funding bill to keep the government open for a few days to buy time to "get the job done" in talks on immigration legislation.


    But he says a House-passed spending bill that would keep the government open for another month would merely "kick the can down the road," and says Democrats will block it.....snip~

    http://www.chron.com/news/politics/...mp-pushes-back-against-aide-over-12506781.php


    Next!
     
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    Not by most Americans. Trump and Congressional Republicans have it within their power to pass both, and they cannot fool most folks concerning that reality.
     

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