GOP lawmakers demand that 'alarming' memo on FISA abuses be made public

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  1. Tererun

    Tererun Well-Known Member

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    You are clearly misinformed and you need to stop listening to faux news. It has made many people stupid and ignorant. Please do not turn to CNN or MSNBC as they will also make you stupid. Do research into what you are talking about through multiple reliable sources. I do not argue against stuff that is just made up.
     
  2. vman12

    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Which one would you like to try refuting?
     
  3. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    so Russian bots are pushing hard for this memo someone wrote to be released
     
  4. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    we already heard that the government is monitoring people, this is not news, true under Bush and Obama and Trump... part of the war on Terror

    I say release this memo and release what they have learned from investigating this memo

    if someone did something wrong, charge them with a crime.... if no wrong doing, then that is ok too
     
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  5. hawgsalot

    hawgsalot Well-Known Member

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    In for this....
     
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  6. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I agree, be it the memo or Trump\Bannon under oath, Trump's tax returns, Obama's birth certificate, let it all out there
     
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  7. Hoosier8

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    Calling for full public release of the memo.

     
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    Illegal things that will be found:
     
  9. Tererun

    Tererun Well-Known Member

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    For the cheap seats. I am not going to bother with made up bullshit. Bring something real to the conversation and we can talk.
     
  10. VanCleef

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    It's absolutely preposterous to attempt to state we were worse off after Obama considering the Bush recession.

    The poster you quoted was objectively correct as the factual data is concerned,

    https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-01-19/ranking-the-obama-economy
    https://www.ft.com/content/b5b764cc-d657-11e6-944b-e7eb37a6aa8e
    https://www.usnews.com/opinion/deba...y-on-obamas-great-recession-economic-response
    https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/03/10/us-economic-recovery_n_4935182.html
    https://www.realclearmarkets.com/ar..._saved_us_from_a_great_depression_102479.html

    I can not find a shred of data showing that the United States was better in than 2008/2009 than 2017.
     
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  11. hawgsalot

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    Typical deflection from you, guess Trump should start spying and take your party down. What a country the partisan hacks want.
     
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    Code for you can’t.
     
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    Let me get this straight. The party in control of the House, the Senate, and the White House demands that a memo that they wrote be released?

    So what's stopping them. Trump can declassify anything at will.

    Oh wait... this is just another transparent attempt to manufacture outrage over something that will likely be minor.
     
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    Soooon...........
     
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    So what's stopping them from releasing it?

    This is just like Simpson's testimony. The right-wing hacks screamed about how bad they wanted the Simpson transcripts released. FusionGPS said to go ahead and do it. The right-wing hacks countered with "We can't do it because you won't let us." FusionGPS say do it.

    Feinstein says "**** it" and puts it up on her Senate webpage.

    Right-wing hacks: "We can't believe you did that!!!!"

     
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    #ReleaseTheMemo: Congressmen, Government Officials Tout Report on FISA Abuse They Say Will Rock Country and Implicate Obama

    Sara Carter had this story last night:

    A review of a classified document outlining what is described as extensive Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act abuse was made available to all House members Thursday and the revelations could lead to the removal of senior officials in the FBI and Department of Justice, several sources with knowledge of the document stated. These sources say the report is "explosive," stating they would not be surprised if it leads to the end of Robert Mueller’s Special Counsel investigation into President Trump and his associates.
    ...
    [A senior] government official said that after reading the document "some of these people should no longer be in the government."...

    But the government official, who viewed the document said "it will be tough for a lot of people to see this and especially the media, which has been attempting to deemphasize the dossier. It's going to punch a hole in their collusion narrative."

    [​IMG]Sebastian Gorka DrG

    ✔@SebGorka


    My sources tell me tonight that the “nuclear” memo is just the beginning.

    By the end of it all, the tapping of candidate @realDonaldTrump’s phone will be the least of the Left’s problems.

    #ObamaGate https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/837996746236182529 …

    9:04 PM - Jan 18, 2018
     
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    My guess is it will be released early Monday morning.
     
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    Sure, if you compare obama to the lowest point of the recession, he's at least adequate.

    If you compare him to anything else in the last 75 years, he's a total failure.
     
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    Yeah I didn't think so.
     
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    We end the week with the bombshell revelations, which in point of fact are the confirmation of our now long-held suspicions, that the fabricated Trump "dossier" was in fact used as a pretext to illegally obtain a FISA warrant as legal cover to spy on first the Trump campaign in order to derail it and then the nascent Trump Administration to for all intents and purposes overthrow it. It also had a parallel goal of obfuscating Hillary's and Obama's real crimes by manufacturing evidence that "see, Trump did it too, so no big deal" or something like that.

    [​IMG]

    As of now, key Republicans are pushing to have this smoking gun, nay, still-flaming howitzer, released to the public while the Democrats, many of whom being part of this "investigation" can be considered co-conspirators in the coverup if not the actual crime, are desperately trying to keep it secret.

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-govern...s-fisa-abuse-by-senior-doj-and-fbi-officials/
     
  21. Gatewood

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    You do know that she gives new meaning to the term 'corrupt to the bone'? On the other hand Trump has easily jump started the national economy, signed into law a massive tax-cut bill, and pretty much destroyed the grip ISIS (Obama's J.V. team) had on Iraq. Just what do you think that the Left's Queen of Corruption would have done for the nation during this past year?
     
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    This is a document of the legislature's origin. Acting as a body they need no aprobation from the Executive to release this memo. Conversely, the Executive doesn't have access to the memo so can't release it.
     
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    They must act as a body. If items deemed National Security related are included in the memo individual congressman cannot legally release the information, the body however can, with impunity.

    Had Glenn Simpson's testimony contained information deemed of vital national security interest and classified Diane Feinstein could have been criminally charged.

    It's Congress, each house, acting as a body that has coequal power.
     
  24. Hoosier8

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    Didn’t listen to the video eh. Do you realize there are compartmented security facilities and there are laws dictating how classified information becomes public? Probably not.
     
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    I realize that Trump's Cabana Boy Devin Nunes is probably just blowing smoke up everyones' asses.
     

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