GOP lawmakers demand that 'alarming' memo on FISA abuses be made public

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  1. TrackerSam

    TrackerSam Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You don't get it. There's use of power and then there's abuse of power. One is legal and one isn't. It wouldn't be a story if it was merely the use of power now would it?
     
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    Wrong.

    snip:

    That theory first emerged in the spring of 2008, as Clinton supporters circulated an anonymous email questioning Obama’s citizenship.

    “Barack Obama’s mother was living in Kenya with his Arab-African father late in her pregnancy. She was not allowed to travel by plane then, so Barack Obama was born there and his mother then took him to Hawaii to register his birth,” asserted one chain email that surfaced on the urban legend site Snopes.com in April 2008.
     
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    It would be nice to see the proof of what we already knew.
     
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    JakeJ Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If Clinton, anyone in the Clinton campaign, anyone in the FBI, anyone in the Democratic Party or anyone else in or out of government used the FBI to spy on the Republicans, those people should be locked up in a Super Max prison for a very, very long time.

    Remember, Nixon was impeached and had to resign for criminally spying on Democrat opposition as it was considered that serious. Equally, it is that serious if anyone else now has done so - EVEN WORSE if they used the FBI to do so. There also may need to be a FISA federal judge or two removed from the bench if s/he was rubber stamping warrants for political spying on opponents.
     
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    Paperview Well-Known Member

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    ^ Strangely imagines the words "campaign" and "supporters" are synonymous.


    weird.
     
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    navigator2 Banned

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    Those who donate to campaigns are complicit to campaigning. Sucks huh?
     
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    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That democrats didn't want this info released should say a lot.
     
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    No. Working IN the campaign and "supporters" are not synonymous.

    Sucks, huh?

    Hard to believe you have to have this explained to you.
     
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    cam·paign
    kamˈpān/
    noun
    1. 1.
      a series of military operations intended to achieve a particular objective, confined to a particular area, or involving a specified type of fighting.
      "a desert campaign"
      synonyms: military operation(s), maneuver(s); More


    verb
    1. 1.
      work in an organized and active way toward a particular goal, typically a political or social one.
      "people who campaigned against child labor"
      synonyms: crusade, fight, battle, push, press, strive, struggle, lobby
      "they are campaigning for political reform"

    :roflol:
     
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    Words mean things. According to navvy now, David Duke and the national head of the KKK, and thousands of neo-Nazi's, tens of thousands of those at White Supremacist Stormfront and the Daily Stormer were working for / all part of the Trump campaign.

    ok. lol
     
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    USA Or KGB? Bombshell Memo Details FISA Abuses So Serious It Could Bring Changes To The FBI/DOJ.....

    The House Intelligence Committee voted to release a four-page memo on FISA abuses that have disturbed lawmakers to their core. Some were saying the actions described were akin to the KGB. The vote to release the memo to all members was along party lines, and House Republicans seem adamant that the information should be released to the public. The consequences of these abuses have some members of Congress commenting that deep, structural changes could be coming to the Department of Justice and the FBI.

    Kimberley Strassel

    @KimStrassel


    D's claim there is grave Trump-Russia collusion. R's claim there is grave abuse by FBI of FISA. We've been rehashing this unanswerable fight for 18 months. But there's a simple answer. Time to #ReleaseTheMemo. Let's see what FBI has, or didn't have.

    7:27 PM - Jan 18, 2018



    Kimberley Strassel

    @KimStrassel


    First D's say dossier is super important. Then it comes out Clinton bought it. Then they say it isn't important. Then try to block release to Congress. Now, when it may go public, proactively discrediting. Odd behavior for "truth seekers." #ReleaseTheMemo https://twitter.com/mkraju/status/954173397096976385 …

    8:20 PM - Jan 18, 2018 ....snip~

    https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattv...it-could-bring-changes-to-the-fbidoj-n2436715


    Expect the Demos to do all in their power to not release the info to the Public.
     
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    Guess Mueller can investigate them all now, as he is charged with investigating the Trump campaign.
     
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    That's a silly and simplistic view.
    The fact the GOP wants mueller gone should say a lot as well right?
     
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    It's not a story though, it's a RW fantasy. Like arresting Susan rice for unmasking or locking up mueller for uranium 1.
     
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    The GOP should just release it and claim they had a hang nail, and thats why... you know like diane feinstein did
     
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    Or, you could just look it up. The info is easily available and doesn't require a medical degree to read. If you like, there are real MDs not beholden to Trump who can explain it to you better.
     
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    okay, doc....I'll get on that right after I eat this ham sandwich.
     
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    He was absolutely Obama's opponent.

    Obama knew, and rightly so, that if Trump were elected his entire 8 years of trying to destroy the country would be shredded.
     
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    LOL...all the Democrats voted against it. That tells you quite a bit.

    According to some who have read it, once this becomes public, people are going to lose jobs, some may see jailtime and Muellers Witch hunt will be revealed for what it is...and be done shortly thereafter.
     
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    Amen to that. We were tricked into trading essential liberty to purchase temporary security due to fear of some foreign threat with a risk of harm that is 400 times less than "walking" - you heard correctly. What happened to "Give me liberty or give me death" ?

    The "land of the free, home of the brave" is being transformed into the land of the quazi totalitarian police nanny state and home of those on their knees begging to give up essential liberty for a little more security (security that in reality does not exist).

    Obama then comes along an changes the name to the equally Orwellian doublespeak "freedom act".

    He then defends the head of the NSA, lying to congress (Felony) and violation of the act that forbids spying on US citizens (Felony) by saying

    "If we want increased security - we have to give a little'. Now .. I understand Village idiot Bush not knowing about the main principle on which this nation was founded - Essential liberty is "ABOVE" the legitimate authority of Gov't ... but Obama ? Harvard educated constitutional scholar and civil rights activist ! now that is scary

    We know full well that Obama is familiar with Ben Franklin "Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary security deserve neither liberty or security" .. .and the DOI/Constitution. Yet ... he said it anyway. That is messed up.

    The founders knew well the age old tactic of using fear to take away liberty.

    Stalin wrote a chapter or two and used fear of a foreign threat to implement "Security for the Motherland"
    Hitler followed suit "Fatherland Security"
    Bush - not having the creative ability to come up with a new name, also used fear of a foreign threat to implement "Homeland Security"

    Rather than "Give me liberty or Give me Death" It is now our "Patriotic Duty" to give up liberty.

    This is shameful and anyone who is not ashamed is not a Patriot - Full Stop.
     
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    So all the Democrats voted AGAINST "government transparency".

    Interesting.

    My question is: why must it become public for those guilty to be charged NOW.
     
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    I heard the guy who told Hawaiians that missiles were in the air just had the sniffles.
     
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    That witch as you call her would be doing much better due to the fact she is competent to hold that position as opposed to Donnie little hands.
     
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    You do realize Obama left the country in a better place than when he came into office, right? We were not destroyed nor are going to be from anything he had done. It was actually good for the country. That is a fact.
     
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    No, he did not.

    They dropped the inflation as low as it would go for his entire term, and put 10 trillion dollars on the credit card, which is more than all other debt back to Reagan, then proceeded to kill all traditional jobs by creating a gig economy, completely destabalized the majority of the middle east, sold guns to mexican drug cartels, did an insane deal with Iran, taxed/regulated small business to the point of extinction, and was slapped down by SCOTUS for his unconstiutional actions more than any POTUS in recorded history.

    Those are the facts.

    Every time Trump ends something Obama did, we get stronger. That's a fact.
     
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