A Simple Question for Those Are Still Opposed to Same Sex Marriage

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  1. yabberefugee

    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You are a "Progessive" I understand.....what's up is down, what's down is up, what's left is right, what's right is left. Boys can be girls and girls can be boys.The words I so often hear in Divorce Class is "people change". They make Covenents, then they "change". That is what is wrong with this world. It offers no stability to the family unit.
    Your sarcastic statements do not make any sense Renee. I am not a "regressive"....I am stable. You are moving toward destruction. Have you tried child sacrifice or cannabalism yet? Our culture hasn't ried those things in a lond time. Oh wait....we do abort our children wholesale.
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Actually we have the term "Master" for single males. It might be outdated to you, but as a young boy growing up, I often received cards from relatives titled "Master". Sorry to bust your Progressive Narrative but....carry on.
     
  3. Renee

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    Spoken like a true extremist...because people divorce it means there are no longer stable family units....we should go back to the good old days when women had to stay in abusive marriages. When women were financially dependent. To me, nothing is worse than a child growing up in a loveless marriage, we just have different values
    You are regressive..you want to go back to to he fifties from everything g you seem to say.
    And that extemsism equating abortion with cannibalism.your sarcasm speaks volumes
    If only you cared about children as much as you do about zygotes
     
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  4. Renee

    Renee Well-Known Member

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    Stop being so disingenuous...men are mr. And women are defined by their marriage status, we are talking about adults, master is a boy and miss is a girl...then they grow up
     
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    Colombine Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This is all moot. Marriage is no longer gender specific in the US. Case closed.
     
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    dupe
     
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    Classic binary thinking.
    There is only ever 2 options to every issue.
     
  8. yabberefugee

    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Never heard that discription, but I do believe there are certain "absolutes" in well grounded thinking. Not everything is "relative".
     
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    And then they went out later and colonized and subjugated and raped and pillaged and enslaved and genocided just like all the rest of the male dominator god adherents.
     
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    Fenton Lum Banned

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    You do not get to decide that for anyone other than yourself.
     
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    dairyair Well-Known Member

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    Never said everything is relative. Most math is absolute.
    Other than that, there is nothing absolute and therefore, there is at least 2 sides to every issue.
    The world has many shades of gray between black and white.
    Throw a ball in the air, there is more than just up and down. There is a point of neither.
     
  12. yabberefugee

    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There again Renee, you go off the deep end. Abusive treatment IS a valid reason for divorce. So is unfaithfulness. A good portion of divorce's are "I just fell out of love", or "Ifound someone else more interesting". Just like abortion. There are reasons for abortion....mainly to save a mothers life, but NOT for convenience. Of course you seem to see that all morality is relative to the beholder so divorce and abortion is perfectly acceptable in ALL cases it seems. Did you remeber school shootings in the fifties?? Yes you have progressed to where it is commonplace.
     
  13. yabberefugee

    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Classic moral relativism. So we must do away with all law. Tell you what. What's up is up and that never changes. We have a law called gravity and it is the same for everyone. You can tinker with natural law all you want but there are absolutes that apply to everyone of us in the end.
     
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    Another uninformed post of hate.
     
  15. yabberefugee

    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No one is disingenuous Renee. I wear a ring all the time that says I am married. Master is un unmarried male and Miss is an unmarried female. You need to edit your book. Perhaps you might study up on why female porn stars make more money than males. It is a fact of public record. It is discriminatory. See men are victims too I guess. You are a victim of chance so I guess there is no way out for you. You are a victim.
     
  16. Renee

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    I don’t need to edit my book....besides my readers are all educated You are wrong ..master is a boy. When have you heard a man referred to master...unless he owns slaves or rules over someone
    Check your dictionary
    (2) : a youth or boy too young to be called mister — used as a title
    Gay people wear their rings also...that says they are married. What’s your point?
    Female porn stars might get paid more because there are age limitations men don’t have....and most viewers of porn are men, so the women have to work a lot harder
     
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    I would hate to stay in a marriage for life with someone I didn’t want to be with. You act as though an abortion is a “mere inconvenience” .having an unwanted child you can’t afford is a mere inconvenience for 18 years...
    Yes, I do think divorce and abortion are acceptable especially if both partners consent to a divorce and the woman wants an abortion
    Funny how you support a man who has 5 kids, with three wives and cheats on each of his wives...
    no I don’t remember school shootings in the fifties but I don’t remember the easy access to.military guns. Obama made it harder to to get guns...that was progressive...trump made it easier....that is regressive. The NRA owns the GOP
    I really have to laugh that you blame liberals who want gun controls . ..that would be progressive
     
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    Actually, before 1968, you could mail order guns, and teens carried guns to school to get in a few hours of hunting after school before loosing daylight.

    I actually interviewed several hundred hunters for an article I helped Write,
    that appeared
    ( uncredited ) in "The American Rifleman"
    "The History of Guns and Hunting in America"

    Oddly, School shootings cooincides with other social upheavals of the 60's and 70's


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    "Obama made it harder to to get guns...that was progressive...trump made it easier....that is regressive. The NRA owns the GOP"

    Actually, nobody has made it easier to purchase firearms, there are forms to be inscribed, a comprehensive background check, and concealed carry permits are not given to just anyone.

    1. Fingerprints are required.
    Submitted to the F.B.I. for comprehensive vetting.

    2. Photos are required.

    3. Various other Approvals are required.

    4. Plus a fee.

    The N.R.A. does not represent any Political
    Party, or any Political Affiliations, or any Particular Race, Religion, or Creed or practice discriminatory practices or bigotry.

    I worked for years with NRA and can attest to the non Party status.


     
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    Where in the world do you get the idea I" support a man.....blah blah blah"! I grew up in a home where we had a fully automatic German machine pistol my father was shot with and sent home as a souvenier. I suspect I was not the only one. We had shotguns in our cars in high school so we could hunt before class. The NRA was founded primarily so that blacks in the Reconstructive South could have guns to protect themselves against lynch mobs. I suspect we might need them again to protect ourselves from mad dog progressives and elitists that know what's best for the masses. Of course Obama wanted to make gun ownership harder. He militarized the IRS , FBI, and Dept. of Justice to control the masses and the election process. Had Hillary been elected, that militarization would have continued and at some point, force against the citizens might have become neccesary. Oh, by the way, there is NO such thing as an unwanted child. Do you feel you were one?
     
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    Gay people can wear rings but they are not married. They are something else. Come up with an original name.
     
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    ******************************

    Again, you have complete control over your domain.

    Let us reason,

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    "Gay" Marriage"

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    Outside the pale or definition and your concept of
    Marriage,
    So why do you care ?

    It does NOT affect you in any way shape or manner !

    Key word; GAY or Homosexual, so all you need to do, is ignore it.

    Again, why do you opine or care about anything
    Gay people do,
    or call themselves ???

    One fine day, My Divorced Uncle appeared with a New Wife,
    And all was well, everyone thought she was very nice, and the Guest room was ready,
    Then My Uncle mentioned a wedding date was set, in other words, they were NOT married, yet,
    So they were not allowed to stay in the Guest room.
    The bottom line,
    They were not Married.

    This has always been a common recurring theme.
     
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    What makes you say they’re not married? Why do I have to make up a name? Gay people who marry are just like you...wedding band and all
     
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    You boys and your guns, Making up for other deficits
     
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    I am not throwing a tantrum because we have already won. the word 'marriage' is being successfully applied as we speak, to both same gender and opposite gender civil unions in all fifty states. You lost your battle to control or contain the use of the word to heterosexual circumstances. People are not having problems understanding what marriage is. I say my daughter is married to a woman named Sarah and and everyone seems to get it the first time I say it. They don't even scratch their heads or ask ,me to repeat myself. Maybe you are more easily upset by language change,than most people in Oregon, but they are handling this fine. Have you checked the recent polling on same sex marriage, and that is the term used in polls, to see how big a concern the 'imprecision' of this term might be? Last I checked 65% of Americans polled were in favor of just that use of language. Nothing to stomp about.

    Winning feels good.
     
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    Gay marriage?? How 'bout gay union? Marriage is sacred to one man and one women. Let's not diminish the word.
     
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