A Simple Question for Those Are Still Opposed to Same Sex Marriage

I prefer using Mr or Ms in reference to an adult man or woman, it matters not if they are involved with another person.
I have made arrangements to assure there will be no problems when I die.

 

Your reasoning is specious and unsound,
Why ?
The money in your wallet, Bank, is NOT diminished in any way by counterfeit money in circulation.

And yes, the Banks are alerted to counterfeit money and Treasury Agents are tasked with tracking counterfeits and the makers of it.

Our money undergoes changes to make counterfeiting more difficult if not impossible.

 

Yet in time of war opposing forces have flooded their adversaries treasury with counterfeit money to increase inflation and devalue their dollar. My reasoning is quite sound. To embrace unnatural relationships, and call them marriage, dimininshes the" real thing" which is the relationship between one man and one women......the foundation of stable families. Marriage is unique and in my view, sanctified for that very reason. It must be safeguarded and treated with high value. Marriage in our culture needs to be strengthened, not diminished. Your "counterfeit" marriages does exactly that. The only changes needed in our current definiton of marriage, is the level of comittment given by those that undertake it. Like the "Treasury Agents" we need to track the counterfeit marriage and call it out. It is not marriage,,,,,it is something else.

 

Gee thanks for telling me that girls become women. I didn’t think you were aware of that because you refer to women as girls.And I don’t think anyone can disagree that a stable home is important for any child. Doesn’t a stable home provide the love of them mom or dad or whoever is raising them in this stable home?

 

Does marriage require love?

 

Marriage is a contract. So saying love is needed is to deny what marriage is.

 

Marriage the contract was created by men. Why would a man create marriage?

Could it be that he and she have children so he wants to bond contractually his female and himself for the sake of the children?

Marriage the creation was never created for homosexuals.

 

Both of the two sexes have "special" contributions to raising a child. When one is missing it is not the best possible condition. The best possible condition is called "Marriage"....a union between one man and one women.

 

Correct, but it was that way from the beginning. A foreshadow of Christ and His Church.

 

I hope this works as intended, but try to imagine you want to use your auto, and you notice it now has not 4 wheels but only 3. It will not work as intended.

I think the two adults need less protection but a lot of protection for the children. I think men could go with the woman not being protected far easier than their children having no legal protections.

I believe why homosexuals wanted marriage is directly connected to money and not love.

 

Actually, Robert, Marriage was made to be a "Covenant". That is a vow to an agreement for life. It appeals to a Source higher than our legal system. Our judicial system makes it a "contract". Contracts are made to be broken. If they are not broken....who needs them? There are supposed remedies written into a contract for when it is broken. The only remedy for a broken "Covenent" is between the individual and God.

 

I think you are overgeneralizing. I have heard over and over how women are the best caregivers. So wouldn’t it make sense that to women would make the best conditions? (Tongue in cheek)
I would rather see your child living in a home with loving the parents and living in a home with heterosexual parents that fail at the job
My lesbian cousin and her partner are raising twins. If my grandaughter turn out to be anything like them I would be so proud. One is it Yale and the other is a Princeton. Their biological father was a sperm donor

 

Oh no, I’m an atheist ...does that mean I can never break a covenant
You really seem to be quite dependent on the supernatural

 

Is that why you married? Why would gay people have a devious motive? Are they not capable of wanting to commit to a person they love?

 

You’re right it was created by .MEN. That’s why women were considered chattel and why men wanted marriage.
Marriage was never created for homosexuals...but now it is, times change . Slavery was created by white men, denying women the right to vote was created by men,, Times change

 

You do not need marriage for that. I married wife 1 over my love for her but she had 2 children. I was talking 2 days back with her eldest son who is 58 and commented we have known each other for 53 years. We both admire each other. I am very proud that for his life, I am the father he knows who took care of him for many years and he turned out to become a super citizen. By the way, he is republican.

 

I believe those do not dismiss my claims. You first agree then you slither about. Times could change right back so that argument is not valid.

We need to stick to the topic of marriage and its purposes. Not slaves or women chattel. It seems you make an argument of homosexuals also having chattel relationships.

 

And why can’t gay people do the same?

 

Renee, i hope I am wrong, but you have the tone of speech implying you do not like men.
Men did create marriage but my argument it was over the children more than the woman. At one time it was unthinkable that the marriage would not produce children.

I have had 2 wives. I admit wife one liked kids, but did not seem to thrill with kids. She acted like her children were to be used by her to do house work and yard work. She could and was very harsh with her kids by forcing them out of bed past the hour of 1 to 2 AM and forced to do housework or outside do yard work. I was very unhappy how she treated her kids.

Wife 2 was so in love with children she had 7. I am the father of her final child. She would do anything for her children. i seldom saw her ask them to do yard work and if her children helped clean house, I was not present. When we married, I had to hire yard workers to fix up her home. And I fixed up the inside of it myself. Her kids could trash a new home fairly fast. Not so much litter, as actual damage to cabinets, doors and other things. But the kids were normally pretty well behaved and to this day, I think very highly of her children.

 

What for? Aren't both of them adults of equal status?

Remember, we are discussing marriage and of course the purpose. Tax deductions are not part of the package. Do you think people took tax deductions prior to past 1913? (I need to study to learn the first year Americans took tax deductions)

 

none of the children I raised believe what you believe.

 

Trey are in a minority. Of course it depends how old they are. But I do know one thing it really doesn’t matter what your kids believe.

 

You are accusing gay people of marrying for money and not for love and that makes absolutely no sense other than just a bigoted viewpoint

 

First why can't you say homosexual? Or course the fees to go to court were to collect or pay less government taxes. Why do you think it is for love? Can't they love and not take marriage from heterosexuals? Another matter, I warned homosexuals that once they broke the bridge, others using the love excuse will get married. Moms want sons and fathers want daughters. Recall who the mama's and the papa's band was? Her father bedded her for 10 years and she wrote about it in her book. She in her book said they wanted to marry each other.

Do you know that today there are adults sitting in prison who only wanted marriage and it was denied to them?

 

What makes you think I can’t say homosexual? Here’s homosexual,homosexual, homosexual,homosexual. Gay is much easier to type. What would make you think I can’t say the word homosexual?
Oh i know, you think it’s a bad word...that’s your issue, not mine I also often refer to heterosexuals as straight... maybe I can’t say heterosexual
OK please explain how homosexuals take marriage away from heterosexuals..Damn my gay friends who married ...and now it must mean I am no longer married. Damn them for taking marriage away from me.
So now mothers want to marry their sons.? Fathers want to marry their daughters? You really live in irrational fear. Relax you don’t really have to worry about it until there are millions and millions of parents who want to marry their children and then they will start a movement. Until then you canRelax