New Pennsylvania Congressional Map Is a Big Win for Democrats

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  1. Angrytaxpayer

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    http://nymag.com/daily/intelligence...-congressional-map-is-a-big-win-for-dems.html

    What?! The GOP is gerrymandering but voted Democratic? Boy if that isn't the definition of hypocrisy... But who's surprised here? The Democrats changing the rules to get the results they want. Can't wait to see what they change and what excuse the left comes up with when they lose again.
     
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    Great to see a reversal of this UNCONSCIONABLE Gerrymandering in PA.

    It is too bad that the PA GOP CAN'T Win Congressional Elections WITHOUT stacking the deck.
     
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    AJ, it will be my pleasure to defeat you just this fall.
     
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    They must not have enough illegal aliens to vote for dems like obama told them to do.
     
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    Do you understand what gerrymandering is? From what you are saying the state votes almost fifty percent dems but two thirds of the congressional seats are republican. That means they have arranged it so that the popular vote is not reflected in their representatives.

    I would say some of that should be the case as rural areas need representation despite the fact they will have lower population. Problems arise if a state as rural as pa were to vote only by its urban influence. The red areas are often the rural areas. Still it should be noted this is above the mason did on and those red leanings are northeast red for a lot of the state. That is a more socially liberal republican.

    Still even with a bit of a counter to represent the rural areas the skew was way off because the maps were drawn to put rural populations where they would overcome suburban voters who tended to be blue. It is still a bit favoring the red areas, but it should be. To claim this is a democratic map is wrong. It is a less republican map.
     
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    Theoretically on paper anyway. The concept of 'gerrymandering' is a very arrogant presumption that once a democratic voter, always a democratic voter(and vice-versa obviously.) And the sad thing is when we guppies, the American Populace actually convince them they're right about this. If every voter were bipolar in their political decisionmaking, gerrymandering wouldn't exist lol.
     
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    Hopefully PA is only the first of many gerrymandered states to redraw their electoral maps prior to the 2018 elections.
     
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    Boo hoo . Get rid of the electoral college too I guess .
     
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    I would have no problem whatsoever with having a direct election for the POTUS. It would be way more representative than what we have now.
     
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    DNC .... Lol... Oh you guys ... what a hoot...
     
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    The Electoral College favors conservatives. Is it okay if we change that? Change it so it doesn't favor Republicans or get rid of it all together?
     
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    Hi. Conservative here. PA was an embarrassment. It was the worst offender in the nation as gerrymandering goes, on either side, and I for one am glad it was addressed. Democrats have no room for smugness on the issue however.
     
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    Let's just get rid of voting too, and mandate that a democrat is put into every position automatically, forever!
     
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    So basically you are for gerrymandering. You realize there is nothing scientific about drawing these don’t you?
     
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    "Pennsylvania changes districts to favor Democrats." as per the OP. No, the courts are just reversing GOP cheating - simple as that. And the courts will continue to reverse prolific GOP cheating......while the Dems have also done it, the GOP are masters at cheating (gerrymandering).
     
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    Like the Dems don't gerrymander in Massachusetts and Illinois.
     
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    How so?
     
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    I have no issue with a universal national voter ID.

    The GOP does, and would fight the idea tooth and nail.
     
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    Pa moderate here that sits a board on gerrymandering in Monroe county.

    Dems c ant bitch that much but this was an embarassment. Thankfully it has been somewhat fixed.
     
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    "Pennsylvania changes districts to favor Democrats" - Translate this as; Pennsylvania courts take down republican gerrymandered districts.
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    It is fairly obvious that the conservatives on this thread do not appear to be familiar with the gerrymandering case in Pennsylvania, or they might have noted the dishonest way the OP framed the issue.

    The commonwealth is almost evenly split between Republicans and Democrats, and voted that way, in both Presidential and Congressional elections.

    Yet the GOP legislature designed a district map designed to diffuse Democratic districts and insure that a 50/50 split in votes cast produced a 15 out of 18 vicory for Republicans. One Pennsylvania State Senator even publicly admitted that was what they were trying to do.

    And right winger are defending stacking the deck that way.
     
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    Democrats didn't change anything. A judge ruled that the Republicans unfairly made a change to steer the districts in their favor.
     
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    Finally a voice of reason. Jerrymandering has been committed by both parties so anyone from either party who claims otherwise is ( pick one) delusional, untruthful, uninformed, ignorant, or God forbid is lying.
     
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    Exactly ! But the most Trumpeizdas refuse to accept the truth of they are ignorant and uninformed.
     
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    The PA Supreme Court appointed a Stanford professor to redraw the PA districts.

    Given that he had no partisan agenda and the end result favors Republicans by 10 to 8 what are you whining about?
     
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