“Colorblind” Conservative Republicans....

That's because Nazi and KKK types deserve to have their chain pulled on occasion and it's enjoyable to mess with them - not because I see any superiority of races.

 

Says the white nationalist who views all blacks as a monolithic group of subhumans.

I, on the other hand, know plenty of people -- white, black and otherwise -- who are able to see people as individuals.

I reject your concept of race being the definer of my group or my interests, so your argument fails.

Says the white nationalist who views all blacks as a monolithic group of subhumans. Anything that might help minorities or reduce white privilege you view as "anti-white."

I'd love a link to back up that claim. A discussion of electoral strategy is not inherently racist.

 

Too bad you weren’t just trolling, though it’s completley in your character to be too cowardly to stand behind your posts.

 

Simply wanting a white majority for political purposes doesn't qualify as white nationalism unless Democrats who are actively promoting Mass immigration for the aims of establishing a brown majority, for there political advantages, are brown nationalists.

 

Please consider this: Voting in predictable patterns is how politicians take advantage of groups. It is not advantageous for many of the black voters to vote Democrat they way they've been doing. If politicians don't have to work for your vote, they won't. Other groups should actually copy the white group and have politicians compete and truly work for their votes.

 

You find them - I'll stand behind them.

 

There aren't any of those either.

By a repeal of prohibition? No I do not.
From a maintenance of status quo on abortion and gay rights? They still vote for you now don't they? And aint **** been done on either of these issues. Who they going to vote for, the Dems?

 

I didnt call them subhumans. Monolithic, of course.

They just don’t vote that way.

So someone claiming to not want to harm whites views “white privilege” as a thing and wants to harm whites to correct this imbalance. How progressive. And of course poorer whites will bore the brunt of your goals. Rich white elites like you get spared for facilitating this exchange. What a hero you are.

 

Why not blame business when they collude and corrupt politicians to ignore the laws (lobbying)? Businesses are more to blame than the government.

 

That’s a good point. Keeping a white majority isn’t the same as having an ethnostate, yet progressives like Raytri support policies that expressly make whites a minority ( for political benefit). Clearly people like him who don’t see race actually see race very much as they strive to tear down “white privilege”, which they benefitted from their entire lives.

 

I don’t even understand your premise. I vote mostly conservative but I understand why others do not. Why do you presume only being conservative supports your racial interests? Why do you need to vote for the non-black party? Is the end goal to achieve party preferences that mostly benefit white people?

 

Most businesses do not collude or bribe politicians

They cant afford to

Yes the chamber of commerce likes open borders

And they have whores like jeff flake and jeb bush in their stable of streetwalkers

But dont tar everyone with their sins

 

Fair ... Just remember that when those who can afford to push for open borders open the door for other businesses to take advantage of the incoming laborers.

 

There are many examples in many industres but I will just pick one at random

Roofers

The competition in roofing - or landscaping - is brutal

Wiith the winner often being to one with the lowest bid

All it takes is one American citizen contractor to use illegal aliens so that he can make the lowest bid and pretty soon every contractor in town has to use them or go out of business

 

Exactly. And before you know it suddenly people who otherwise wouldn't are making the case that illegals are needed in the country.

 

seems like lots of Conservatives in this thread want to race bait and play the identity politics game.

people are individuals and should be judged as such

 

White privilege is real in this country. Just like "Hindu privilege" is real in India, and "Han privilege" is real in China. When a single group is a dominant majority, they -- consciously or not -- arrange a system that benefits themselves.

Since we are a nation of immigrants -- yes, even you, Brewskier -- it is not "anti" anything to want to eliminate such unearned privileges and create a system where, as much as possible, your success is determined by your character, abilities and actions, and not by the color of your skin or the name of the god you believe in.

You, on the other hand, would like to retain that unearned privilege. Why? Afraid that you can't compete on a level playing field? I mean, you're a white nationalist, so that's probably a reasonable fear. But why should society be organized around people like you that need unearned privilege to succeed?

You claim that reducing white privilege will unfairly impact poor whites. In isolation, you're probably right: if all we did was remove all white privilege, then poor, under-educated whites would be harmed more than wealthy, educated whites.

But that is the case with pretty much all things, not just white privilege. Poor, under-educated workers, white or black, are the last people hired in an economic expansion, the last people to see pay raises, the first people to get laid off in a recession. That is how the market works. It is not necessarily fair -- that laborer putting in 40 hours a week hauling bricks is working at least as hard as the doctor or CEO making 100 times more -- but it isn't personal, either. People with fewer marketable skills simply do less well economically.

However, nothing happens in isolation. Policies that help poor people, regardless of skin color, would help poor whites and blacks alike. Policies that provide meaningful, affordable education and/or vocational training would help under-educated whites and blacks alike. Policies that address the huge problem of income and wealth inequality would help poor whites and blacks alike.

Poor whites have more interests in common with poor blacks than they do with wealthy whites. And we can address the problems facing poor whites without simply piling all the crap on non-whites.

 

sure it does, wtf else would u call it???

 

It's really just denying math and reality at this point. I don't know how anybody can want to see conservative policies prevail while ignoring the racial component to that.

 

Conservatives need to end the obsession over race

 

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To address the topic directly other than in the adhom way our LW posters are doing:

My problem with identity politics as a Republican voter, who is neither a Republican nor a conservative in many ways, for whites is twofold:

1. It's immoral. ALL identity politics is immoral, socialist collectivism is immoral, overpowered central nannyism is immoral, they are against the principles I believe in, and if Realpolitik based on identity politics ends up winning and bringing the country down, well maybe it was time for a shakeup. I'm not going to start slinging turds in a vain attempt to win a turd slinging contest with weak, inferior moral and intellectual creeps. I remain optimistic that a shakeup of those proportions is not going to happen, though, for the time being. The basis for my optimism is that if it is to work in the U.S., it would have worked by now. Identity politics has jumped the shark in this country IMO, and I believe even their favored blocs are waking up to its mindrot. If identity politics were cresting and not ebbing, there is NO WAY Trump could have been elected. 10 years ago, no one even knew what identity politics was, more and more are finding out and rejecting it daily regardless of intense Complex efforts.

2. It's a no win proposition, and plays right into the identity creeps' gov-edu-union-contractor-grantee-trial lawyer-MSM Complex collective's hands. It's like sitting down to a poker game against pros who are all working together... in addition to being more skillful at the crooked game. There is no way in hell that the nonleft is going to become proficient in it mainly due to "1" above. Honest, decent people abhor it and the many lie narratives it propagates. The identity creeps want nothing more than for a foil to posture their rot against, just watch them try to create foils from thin air where none exist to any statistical significance as it is.

The last thing we need is to create any -real- grounds for them to continue to amplify and exaggerate their group based cancer.

 

The Democratic Party, their politicians, their talking heads and their PR people do not hesitate to tell blacks they should vote Democratic because they are black, tell Latinos they should vote Democratic because they are Latino, tell women they should vote Democratic because they are women and LGTBs they should vote Democratic because the are LGTB.

However, if the Republican party even hints that white people or heterosexuals should vote Republican because they are white or heterosexual, the Democratic party, MSM and their minions throw themselves on the ground in a juvenile tantrum sobbing and raging "racists! White Supremacists! Stormfront! Nazis!"

 

The Democratic Party claims they do. According to the Democratic Party, there are tens of millions of KKK, NAZIs and Russians in the USA.

 

Probably when the Democratic Party does the same.