‘You have to call it by name’: Merkel publicly admits ‘no-go areas’ in Germany

So you are defending the beating up of a handful of refugees within days of being placed in Sobo's village?

 

Perhaps you should re-read my post again also. Your lack of comprehension skills is something you may want to have investigated.

 

I only suggested a vague, but perfectly reasonable, definition in passing. I wasn't saying I knew to the letter what Merkel meant - how could I? In the OP I was reporting on what she said, for whatever reasons she had and however she interpreted the term herself. That said, I don't think it's something anyone needs to get hung up on: if we talk about a "no go zone" in whichever town, we're all going to have approximately the same idea in mind: crime ridden, deprived, in recent times a middle eastern immigration fest, and other things. And the reason I'll lay a pound to a penny that that is approximately what Frau Merkel had in mind is because her intervention is obviously (surely??) a response to the AFD, and I'd say that crime-ridden Islamic ghettos is one of the AFD's favourite topics (though you'll be better versed than me on that one).

 

And if you had noticed, I was posting to Sobo that you jumped into, not you, who has stated that he was involved in the beating up and driving out of refugees in his village purely for being refugees.

 

So now its "lawless" zones, not "no go" zones. Wow, there's a rarity.

 

If you say so. Do you have problems with synonyms?

 

Not usually, but you seem to.

 

I remember when these no-go areas started popping up.

The liberals went on a mouth foaming rampage denying their existence even though it was the Muslims themselves who were first spreading the word about them.

 

As far as I know, she did not say "no-go zones".

 

She was still a child in that pic
/facepalm

 

She was still a commie. Lefties tell us kifd are mature enough to decide their sex, so who cares?

 

Lets' be honest. Who does the AFD have that has her charisma and speaking ability? She pisses on her political enemies boots and smiles when she does it. Then they ask for more.

She is a master manipulator. All great leaders are. Regardless of whether they are right or not. The ability to make people think what you want them to think without them realizing it is all powerful. She looks like all of our grandmothers and could be knitting a sweater! She uses that to great advantage.

Germany is fkd. No agenda or position can utilizing mainly over the top shouting and yelling can overcome such a person. Exercise in futility.

 

Right I have the problem.

 

You clearly have no clue what you you talk about.

Merkel has no speaking ability. She barely manages to get a sentence out straight. She stammers and breaks sentences and since her authority diminished so mucn recently, now media openly say it. Germanies biggest paper "Bild" said days ago" We have a chancellor that is unable to make a straight sentence"

She also has zero charisma. She stande for nothing and thats her style. To drive on sight. She waits months to sit problems out. She calls her own tactic "political demobilisation".

It doesnt work anymore. The AfD doesnt need anyone, infact the AfD could place a pillow as leader. The AfD wins so massive because Merkel. From zero to 16% in 2 years in all of Germany. From zero to 30% in eastern Germany. The AfD is the child of Merkels failed politics and as one commentator said " This chancellor is done, she doesnt realize it yet"

She lost all authority, has become the laughing stock of the media, cant step into eastern Germany without getting attacked. Now her cowardly party members like Friedrich Merz stand up and attack her too.

 

Nicely spotted - always the 'far' right, or the 'extreme' right, but never the 'far' left, or the 'extreme' left? And yet it's leftist extremism which is going to cause the downfall of the West, but they're too effing dumb to know it, and that's why I loathe liberals with a passion because 'they know not what they do'??

 

Very weird.

Its always like visiting mars with the left.

 

Hey, you got it in 1 - the left live on a different planet?

 

I have worked with Police and firefighters since before 911.

I have seen police, fire, and EMS attacked.

Its not hard to see where leftist policies take us.

 

Funny but scary.

They promise big things that aren't there.

Those that know no better are drawn to the lights.

 

Squeal
, piggy.

And why not?

 

Thats saying something.

 

Crime ridden, deprived, yes. In recent times a middle eastern immigration fest, no. For starters, the people who came from Syria, and/or Iraq are classified as refugees, not immigrants. This might sound like hairsplitting, but asylum seeker, refugee, immigrant are three diffferent definitions that are handled differently by different laws and regulations (a newly arrived refugee isn't allowed to work for at least the first 12 months, an immigrant can look for work right away for example).
I've already mentioned Duisburg-Marxloh as a typical example of such an area. Problematic parts of Marxloh have been deprived for at leat two decades, has nothing to do with the influx of late 2015. Parts of Hamburg St. George (~10,000 residents) would be another example. St. Georg used to be a complete craphole (nothing to do with influx of 2015) until it was slowly but surely changed in the 90s. Today the blocks behind the main train station are said to be a dangerous area for women at night. Unfortunately, this is something that pretty much every city in the western world deals with. Wasn't it in Tottenham where the England riots started in 2011? I haven't heard of any no go zones that stem from the influx of 2015 (no, I'm not blind to reality, I don't support Merkel and never will), which does not mean there aren't any problems.I won't, however, reply to those utterly stupid comments here on how fu** Germany is and how Merkel has destroyed the country forever and blah blah (get some brains, fools).
Regarding Merkel herself. She's extremely opportunistic, she doesn't really have any political convictions or firm beliefs, she usually waits for reality to throw something at her, then she reacts. We can clearly see that now in the way she responds to the AFD winning 13% in last year's election. One major move was appointing Jens Spahn as a member of her newly formed cabinet. Spahn has been one of the most outspoken critics of Merkel's policies, he has openly criticized her time and again, he's conservative and is considered one of Germany's best political talents. His appointment was a real surprise, but she had to react as not only members of her parliamentary group in the Bundestag have grown unhappy with the results of last year's election and her policies, but also her party base has been criticizing her rather openly, which is something a party leader here cannot ignore.

 

Germany is not ****ed. We can deal with this and we will deal with this. Obviously not in the way as teh left believes.

 

She actually said that expression (no go) in English, in her German comments which I've cleaned up from the Google translate:

"Zero tolerance" means, for example, that there be no no-go areas; that there can be no areas where no one dares to go; there are such places, and you have to acknowledge them."

I'm not German but I know that is essentially a correct translation. Caligula or Sobo could always corroborate.

 

We'll have to part company on distinguishing the words. "Refugee" is so liberally and inaccurately used to describe economic migrants that I don't have a lot of time for it.

I know there are many no go areas that aren't down to our swarthy middle eastern cousins. I suspect most of central / south American is a drug-infested no go zone, none of which can be blamed on Muslims. I'm only talking about these no-gos in Germany / Sweden etc.

We seem to agree that Merkel is operating opportunistically. Her remarks are obviously intended to take the wind out of the AFD's sails, so the no-go areas she's talking about are obviously the ones where immigrants have taken hold. At least, that is my clear impression which you're entitled to reject, but I think I'm on the money here.