‘You have to call it by name’: Merkel publicly admits ‘no-go areas’ in Germany

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  1. Jim Nash

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    Yes, but it was a downward move, as evinced by her failure to get a coalition. And the AFD made big gains and is still rising.
     
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    Im German, i hate Merkel. In eastern German states and Bavaria as well as Baden-Württemberg she cant go on streets without getting pelted with eggs. She got worst result for CDU ever. She has no govermment now even after 6 months.

    She is done. She just doesnt acknowledge it yet and she can go to hell.
     
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    Shes a global socialist.
    Anything but conservative.
     
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    How can you admit your nation has lawless zones where your safety is greatly compromised and then refuse to disclose these locations?
    That's insanity and may be why Merkel's party suffered big losses during their last elections. Merkel is a spear carrier for the globalists
    looking to erase national boundaries and bring down the West until it is all like Brazil...a dysfunctional nation with very rich and very poor people, mostly.
     
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    she did not acknowledge no go zones. She said there were NO no go zones and something had to be done about the far right bullshit that is being flung around. Guess you totally missed that.
     
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    Im a police officer and in west germany are no go zones. Even firefighters get attacked there.
     
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    Please help us, Sobo.

    We are having big trouble with the translation of the interview to English. Did she say there are so-called 'no-go zones', or not?
     
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    What Merkel said:

    ...über das Thema Innere Sicherheit und dessen Dringlichkeit:

    "Das ist von mir immer schon ein Punkt, dass Innere Sicherheit die staatliche Aufgabe ist. Der Staat hat das Gewaltenmonopol, der Staat muss sicherstellen, dass Menschen, wann immer sie sich im öffentlichen Raum begegnen und bewegen, sie das Recht darauf haben. Das gehört zu unseren wichtigsten Aufgaben. Wir haben bereits in unserem letzten Grundsatzprogramm nicht Freiheit und Verantwortung gesagt, sondern Freiheit und Sicherheit. Weil wir wissen, Freiheit kann nur gelebt werden, wenn Sicherheit auch gewährleistet ist. Also das ist ein Thema, das uns lange schon umtreibt, aber das sicherlich heute eine sehr, sehr hohe Dringlichkeit hat."

    ...über ihre Vorstellung von "Null Toleranz" in diesem Kontext:

    "Das heißt, dass es zum Beispiel keine No-Go-Areas gibt. Dass es keine Räume geben kann, wo sich niemand hin traut. Und solche Räume gibt es und das muss man dann auch beim Namen nennen und man muss etwas dagegen tun. ..."

    Translation:

    ...on the topic of internal security and its urgency:

    "This has always been a point of mine, that internal security is the duty of the state. The state has the monopoly on force, the state must ensure that people, when ever they move around and interact in the public space, they have the right to this. That is one of our most important responsibilities. Already in our latest political program, we did not say freedom and responsibility, but freedom and security. Because we know freedom can only be experienced when security is also guaranteed. So that is a topic that has been on our minds for a long time now, but which certainly has very, very great urgency today."


    ...about her idea of "zero tolerance" in this context:

    This is to say that there are no no-go areas, for example. That there cannot be any areas where no one feels safe. And such areas exist and it must also be called by name and something must be done about it.

    https://www.presseportal.de/pm/7847/3877548

    It is not clear what she is talking about specifically, but it sounds like the kind of admission that RT is alleging. But, you know, you have to take RT with salt.
     
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    Was it really worth it to that apathetic, non passionate, kiss-up new world order subhuman?
     
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    The best way for a government to solidify power is to put citizens in danger and convince them that the government needs more power to keep them safe.

    Fortunately for Germany, not everyone in government is down with that plan.
     
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    You, like a few others, have gone into a bizarre parallel universe on this one:


    "Räume" in context means "spaces", or "areas", not "rooms", the garbled Google translate offering; "Und solche Räume gibt es, und das muss man dann auch beim Namen nennen" means "and there are such areas, and they must be acknowledged (called by their name)". What are you misunderstanding? It's as categorical a statement as there can be: there shouldn't be such places, but there are and we have to name them.

    I'll clean up the bad punctuation and switch out "rooms":


    That's what she said. We happy? I don't see anyone out there rationally trying to dispute the actual words she said, largely because it's a road to nowhere as it's...what she said, LOL.
     
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    It couldn't be clearer - you think Merkel, a German, can't speak her own language?

    See above post for clarification.
     
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    Winston Churchill: “Those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it”.
     
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    I mean it's not clear where these areas are, exactly, or how severe the problem is. She goes on to talk about a need for the same standards of security nation-wide, apparently addressing disparities between the Länder.
     
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    As usually she says nothing. Just bla bla. She Said there should be No No Go areas
     
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    Fire fighters get attacked here in council estate areas which are populated mainly by ethnic English. That does not make them no-go zones otherwise how could they have been attacked in the first place if they did not go there.

    In fact, the only no-go zones appears to be in your village where you have admitted attacking any asylum seekers placed there.
     
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    Sobo has clarified what she said showing that the OP is wrong. Merkel stated that there should be no no-go zones, as in, everything should be done to stop any occurring in the future.
     
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    Sobo said "there should be No No Go areas", which is obviously correct, and what she said. She goes on to clarify "und solche Räume gibt es, und das muss man dann auch beim Namen nennen", meaning "and there are such areas, and they must be acknowledged (called by their name)", as I said above. If we connect Sobo's clarification and the follow up, we have "there should be No No Go areas, there are such areas, and they must be acknowledged (called by their name)".

    I more than happy to repeat this, and I'm not sure what you think you're achieving by denying the actual written word. It couldn't be any clearer, and what's more it's a logical move on her part, as she's terrified by the rise of the AFD so she's looking to take the wind out of their sails.
     
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    It's not nothing though, is it? She's being forced to acknowledge the reality specifically because of the threat from the AFD. That can only be good
     
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    where are these no go zones? Do you have a list of them? How large are these areas? Who can and cannot "go" into these "zones"? How is "no go" enforced within these zones? How many people have been killed or injured by wandering into these zones?

    As a police officer I assume you have access to this kind of information. Which begs the question, why is it only the goosesteppers that seem to know all about these no go zones?
     
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    Germany for Germans. And Asylum is something you ask for. That doest mean you get it granted. We dont give asylum here. As does most of eastern germany, our cities started a migrant ban recently
     
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    One famous one is Marxloh. Just scum there, women cant walk there, police doesnt go there and if they must they come with special forces.

    No go is enforced by arabs clan culture.
     
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    She is Germany's second worst Chancellor.
     
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    Seems like the only no-go zones are those enforced by yourselves using violence. Great example from a police officer!
     
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