Outrage grows over police killing of Stephon Clark in Sacramento: '20 shots over a cellphone'

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  1. Fenton Lum

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    Agreed, Zimmerman should have let the kid walk home and left him alone, he was up to NOTHING AT ALL.
     
  2. Bluesguy

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    How did the police know it was a toy gun, a very realistic looking toying gun from which he had removed the bright orange tip designating it as a toy gun, when he pointed it at them? Yeah not advisable to do that when the police come screaming up in their cares don't you think.

    Where did this idea police have physic abilities come from, the movies?
     
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    He did Martin HAD gotten to the apartment where all he had to do was go inside, then saw Zimmerman back up at the T junction and went there to confront and assault him as was proven in court.
     
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    Of course, nevermind, they can murder kids with toys too.
     
  5. Bluesguy

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    We all do, do you also oppose people using self defense to protect themselves from threats to life and limb?
     
  6. superbadbrutha

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    The same facts that make you call OJ a murderer.

    Why do you support a cowardly grown man who would chase and murder a 17yr old teenager.

    Why do you support police officers that kill or shoot unarmed black men?
     
  7. Bluesguy

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    How did the police know it was a toy gun, a very realistic looking toying gun from which he had removed the bright orange tip designating it as a toy gun, when he pointed it at them?
     
  8. Fenton Lum

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    Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaawn, please do go on, ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.....................

    George's armed stalking was fine too.
     
  9. Bluesguy

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    I didn't ask you about OJ try again.

    And what facts to you know that the police and the FBI don't that proves Zimmerman is a murderer?



    I don't, why do you support a criminals who assault and threaten others of their life and limb such as Martin and Brown.



    It they are threatening someone else's life and limb why not?
     
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    There was not stalking and why do you go to sleep at the facts that were proven in court?
     
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    Whatever the police do is jusified if the murdered is black, even children, got it, thanks. The Daniel Shaver murder by police in Arizona, that's legit in your eyes as well?
     
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    OK, no reality at all with you on this, noted.
     
  13. superbadbrutha

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    I asked you.

    Who knows, the evidence was either botched badly or destroyed by the time the FBI got involved.

    Trayvon Martin wasn't threatening anyones life and limb, that kid was minding his own business when a coward found him "suspicious". I can't understand how you support a grown man chasing and murdering a teenager. Brown is a whole different incident.

    The unarmed folks who have been murdered time and time again by police were not threating anyone and you try to defend it. Hell you supported the police in the murder of Oscar Grant.
     
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    Travon martin tried to beat the crap out of zimmerman

    If he hadnt done that he’d still be alive today
     
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    ? I'm agreeing with your posts. Reread what I wrote.
     
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    Of course there would be. They just wouldn’t be allowed to commit manslaughter, like they currently are.
    Lol, I own you in both.
     
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    Its justified if it was reasonable that there could be a threat.

    After HE dropped to the floor. The autopsy is consistent with the video...he was hit in the front, fell, and was shot again to his back and side.
     
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    Well actually, no I don't think the Police had a clue at that time that it was his Grandmothers house. Which could have been a factor in their judgment to kill him because for all they knew, he was armed(something in his hand) and had he breached the door to the home, he could have taken hostages or killed everyone in the home. How would the Police know any different at that point whose home it was or what the suspects intentions were? And yes I think the suspect was that stupid or scared stupid to think that getting into his Grandmothers home would somehow make him safe. I mean, that's what he was trying to do in the video.
     
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    You go stalking someone with your gun some rainy eve. No pussyassed slob who uses as a defense for murdering a teenager that "I'm a punkass fishbellied blob and I'm defenseless so when I was challenged for armed stalking had had to kill him" should ever have access to a firearm.
     
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    I think it's rather well established in american jurist prudence. With “suspects” below a certain socioeconomic class, the police can simply murder and ask questions later. There is always “fear” as an out.
     
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    Yea that's the lie that has been told over and over.
     
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    Yea because cops are shot with cellphones everyday.

    After he dropped to what floor?

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    Point out where he was shot in the front.
     
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    I would be careful about trying to defend oneself from a cop, they may just use it as an excuse to kill you
     
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    the cop escalated that situation at the hotel, the young man had been drinking, but not drunk... but even a sober person would have had issues with those commands and the verbal escalation and death threats from the cop, the young man was having a panic attack cause he knew he was about to be murdered
     
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    Yes we know, OJ and Zimmerman were found not guilty so can not be called murderers
     
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