Why David Hogg’s ‘Five Point Plan’ To End Gun Violence Betrays His Ignorance

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  1. gamewell45

    gamewell45 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You know what? Maybe the gun kills the fewest, but you have to start somewhere as opposed to doing nothing.
     
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    PeppermintTwist Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    WTH does "betrays ignorance" mean?
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You mean to say you are heading us to outlawing guns? If you do not outlaw guns, guns will still kill. But then again, autos also kill. Airplanes kill. A lot of things kill. A good friend of mine, a fellow female realtor lost her life to her own ladder. She fell and broke her neck and died on the spot.
     
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    Hogg is going the wrong path.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    He is appealing to nonsense. The very idea that it was the gun that took the killer to the school, the gun that talked it over with the killer and persuaded him to pull the trigger that makes no sense at all.

    Democrats refuse to nail the problem. They go after nonsense.

    If they want my suggestion, I say protect schools. Protect all target rich environments. Make the killers take notice they are entering at great peril. Treat killers with the disrespect they deserve. Stop acting like they can't be stopped.
     
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    gamewell45 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Airplanes may kill, auto's may kill; a lot of things kill but what most if not all of them have in common is that they are not designed to kill unlike guns which is their primary function.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    A lot of property has signs such as [​IMG]
    and do you think many solicitors show up?
    What are the chances of trespassing?

    Change the sign to this.

    [​IMG]

    Now what happens?

    Stop attacking guns.

    Do you attack dogs for being good guards?
     
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    So we should continue to allow the mentally insane and criminals to have unfettered access to guns? The schools may be safer, but what about outside the schools? Doesn't that matter in the big picture of things?
     
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    Are you telling me my guns made huge mistakes by never killing humans? Why do you blame guns?

    If the sole purpose of a gun is to kill humans, why are so few killed by guns? Far more are killed by the automobile. You don't blame the automobile, so why blame the gun?
     
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    You focus on the gun. Are you now focusing on mental health? Are you focused now on criminals? Hogg is focused on guns. And he is not focused on the mental health nor criminal aspect. The killer at his school was thought to be sane and he was not deemed a criminal. But law was warned about him. i would blame the law were I in Hoggs position. Many parents in that area do blame the law.
     
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    The airplane has killed millions of humans. Do you recall Hiroshima and Nagasaki to start off with? Vehicles have killed hundreds of thousands into the millions. Recall the Bradley vehicle and the M1-A1 tank?
     
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    I accidentally copied that and then pasted it into the OP. But it is in the article I linked to.
     
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    How come you never say that about the murders by illegals, the victims of Islamic terrorism and the blacks in inner cities who murder other blacks.
     
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    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If the aim is to prevent murders then I'd say grab the low hanging fruit - kick the illegals out of this country and do something to make them stay out, because they murder people. Don't let any more religious fanatics into this country because of their knack for killing people. Come down hard on inner city gangs. Those three things are responsible for far more murders than so called assault rifles.
     
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    Most deaths by auto are accidental; I don't know what your definition is by "so few killed by guns"?

    "Guns were used in 11,078 homicides in the U.S. in 2010, comprising almost 35% of all gun deaths, and over 68% of all homicides"

    The statistics don't lie.

    "On average, 33 gun homicides were committed each day for the years 2005-2010.

    Regions and states with higher rates of gun ownership have significantly higher rates of homicide than states with lower rates of gun ownership"


    http://lawcenter.giffords.org/gun-deaths-and-injuries-statistics/
     
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    Murder is murder no matter who does it.
     
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    What about Caucasian Americans who murder using a gun? What happens with them? why not come down on everyone who murders using a gun??
     
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    Yea, he literally is in #5.
     
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    Dear David -

    Did you get that 5 point plan from a George Soros think tank?

    I mean, who talks like that?

    Not even Bernie Sanders, and he was a washed up f--king bore like 10 years ago. Some Democrats just will NEVER retire - NANCY.

    Stop watching Democracy Now - she's astroturf politics paid millions by capitalist swine!


    Peace and Love, Your friend Monster Zero.


    PS. Somebody should tell Dave Chapelle dragging that washed up Jon Stewart around on a double bill is bad business.

    When is that cracka gonna shave the grey pubes off his chin ?



    :confusion:
     
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    The phrase "give them an inch they will take a mile" applies to most gun control advocates.
     
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    If Dave Chapelle really wanted to sell more tickets he should've picked that Late Nite host with the fake Irish accent, Craig Kilborn.

    Now THAT guy was funny.


    :applause:
     
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    What’s an assault weapon?
     
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    Ummm... False...
     
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    ararmer1919 Banned

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    That is blatantly false and down right foolish if there are actually alt leftists like you who believe that.
     
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    gamewell45 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    We agree to disagree on this.
     

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