Child Separation "Issue" Is Democrat Scam

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  1. Jonsa

    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Amazing. REACH back to 79 to prove that the Times isn't credible and using the National enquirer to do it.

    As an active participant in the plan to discredit as much of the media as possible, I am not surprised you have stooped to this irrelevant incident of 40 years ago.

    Trump says its okay to lie to the NYT because they are fake news.

    What trumpettes choose not to acknowledge is that NYT is reporting the fake news Trump generates. His chronic lying, his wild arsed unsubstantiated accusations, his juvenile vindictiveness and ad homs, - the man is the very embodiment of fake news.

    And his acolytes lap it up and his allies keep spouting it while attacking everyone that points out the gaping chasms of credibility and character the man exhibits daily.
     
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    Obama did it and it is the law of the land. Democrats were urged to work to change it yet they refuse. Stop blaming law enforcement on Trump. He swore his oath to do just that.
     
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    The NYT is a valid source since every source screws up on occasion.
     
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    For 45 years democrats have supported ripping children from the womb and making them dead by that process.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    comparing living, breathing, crying children to THIS, is disgusting, dishonest and pathetic.

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    families seeking asylum should NOT be ripped apart.

    full stop.

    keep them together or deport them, there should be no other option.
     
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    That's human growth. With no violence heaped upon it that baby will live perhaps 70 years or more.
     
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    Wait, Trump is forcing these AWESOME parents to drag them into the country or give them away to strangers in an attempt to EXPLOIT our system by hoping we would just let the kids through and be given away to anyone who happened to be waiting there to pick them up, no questions asked? And Trump forced all the illegals to sneak across the border...hmmmm. Thats some super powers he's got=) Can't recall you getting angry at Obama when he detained people at the border. hmmmm
     
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    It is a humitarian necessity that the adults are proven to be the children's parents. In most cases, the claims of needing asylum are fraudulent. If an adult is willing to commit fraud, by falsely requesting asylum, why should we assume that they aren't falsely presenting children as their own?

    https://www.westernjournal.com/eye-...bducted-by-illegals-used-to-pose-as-families/
     
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    The Demo from Texas said it was kept hidden under Obama.
     
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    And what America is that you are referring to? What's happening right now is not the America I know!
    We are a country of immigrants, right? Bet you a dollar to a donut, your ancestors were immigrants!
    If the Native American's had their way, your ancestors would have been sent back to your native country, right?
    What does the Statue Of Liberty stand for?
    And,Milania trump says this is not right, (just in case you don't know who Milania trump is---The POTUS's wife) former first lady GOP Laura Bush says this is cruel & unjust, several GOP Senators are saying this isn't right-----It isn't right---we are not a dictatorship, we don't put children in cages, or we didn't until trump's policy change---
    And if trump is so proud by doing this, why is he blaming the Democrat's?
     
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    Except the NY Times has been screwing up longer than most other news sources. Especially from the late 50s when they decided to become a Propaganda tool for the DNC and the Demos.
     
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    "We are a country of immigrants, right? Bet you a dollar to a donut, your ancestors were immigrants!"

    I'm pretty sure that everyone knows this. It's not, in any way, relevant to the issue.

    Stop playing games!
     
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    You have to remember that after 5 pages, the leftness forgets about what has been posted that debunks their narrative and inflames their TDS.
     
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    Melanie is mistaken

    America has an immigration policy and there must be limits
     
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    Limbaugh posted this on his website from 1995:

    We have a montage of Democrats talking about the Republicans hating children from the 1995 budget battle.

    REP. JOHN LEWIS: They’re comin’ for our children. They’re comin’ for the poor.

    REP. THOMAS BARRETT: Why do the Republicans want to take apples and milk away from six-year-olds?

    REP. LYNN WOOLSEY: Starving children is not the solution …

    GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS: It’s cruel to kids!

    SEN. DICK DURBIN: Stop declaring war on our kids!

    REP. LITTLE DICK GEPHARDT: The Republicans are taking food out of the mouths of millions of needy children.

    REP. LUIS GUTIERREZ: We’re gonna let the kids go hungry again.

    SEN. TED KENNEDY: War on their children! War on their children!


    RUSH: Starving children? Republicans were starving children? These were phantom budget cuts, but just the fact they said it! Now, listen. This weekend and today we have a montage of some of the same Democrats talking about the separation of families issue.

    REP. JOHN LEWIS: (outdoor noise) …sick and tired of (slams podium) what had happened to (slams podium) our children, (slams podium) to our babies, taken from their mothers (slams podium) from their fathers, separated. (slams podium) That’s not right! (slams podium) That’s not fair!

    REP. SHEILA JACKSON LEE: (outdoor noise) To snatch children away from their families. This ugly, vile program that is harming children.

    REP. JERRY NADLER: Babies being separated from their mothers. This administration is behaving like a bunch of thugs and gangsters.

    SEN. CHRIS VAN HOLLEN: (outdoor noise) A cynical, evil policy to try to hold these kids hostage.

    REP. LUIS GUTIERREZ: Children are being ripped from parents’ arms. I can’t think of anything more chilling, any more evil.

    REP. JOE KENNEDY: (outdoor noise) We fight for these kids! We fight for their parents!


    RUSH: You see the similarities? It’s the same playbook. It’s the same approach. “Republicans hate X.” Just change it to fit whatever issue is going on. It’s manufactured.

    They get together and make this stuff up. The news is so good for Republicans today that they have to change the subject
     
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    Lefties b like you cant rip a 15 year old out of it mothers arms, its just a baby

    In other threads ledties b like...you can rip an unborn fetus from a mothers womb, cut it limb from limb and sell it for sports car money....thats ok.
     
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    Hardly. Fox news is a propaganda tool. The NYT is a liberal newspaper and always has been.
     
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    SQUIRREL.

    newsflash: a fetus isn't a child. Honest, the bible told me so.
     
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    Yep, It's hung around the Republican'ts neck like a pork chop in a pack of wolves.
     
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    This is happening for all the world to see, even you. True Republicans are opposed to Trump's use of children to get his funding for his wall that he promised Mexico would to pay for.
     
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    Again the NY Times has and does get it wrong more than any other News Sources. The NY Slimes is a propaganda tool used by the Demos and the DNC. Evidenced by the Liberal Editors and Staff donating to all things of the leftness. While telling the Demos what they need to do and how to do things.

    The NY Slimes flipped from being objective back in the late 50s after the Demos were hooked up for colluding with the Russians and after the Demo Traitor Alger Hiss had been working in the State Dept.
     
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    So,imagine for a moment, if you were ripped out of your Mother's arms--Anywhere--& you put in a cage? Because after all you are an immigrant & what would you say if "you" were the one at the limit?
    Yeah,that's where we are at in the United States right now in 2018 because of trump's policies--but,only there isn't a limit, it's everyone---it isn't right---
    The first lady's name is not Melanie (although old donnie got it wrong also in one of his tweets, yeah,mispelled his wife's name) it is Milania & whether you think she is wrong or right is irrelevant--she said it wasn't right, totally contradicting her hubby----
     
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    Trump is taking a hit on the immigration issue. If this drags out to November, it will be a problem for the RNC.

    http://thehill.com/homenews/adminis...-of-republicans-back-family-separation-policy
    Sixty-six percent of American voters oppose the policy, according to the poll.

    https://poll.qu.edu/national/release-detail?ReleaseID=2550
    American voters oppose 66 - 27 percent the policy of separating children and parents when families illegally cross the border into America, according to a Quinnipiac University National Poll released today.

    Republican voters support the separation policy 55 - 35 percent, the only listed party, gender, education, age or racial group to support it, the independent Quinnipiac (KWIN-uh-pe- ack) University National Poll finds.

    American voters also support 79 - 15 percent allowing immigrants who were brought to the U.S. as children, so-called "Dreamers," to remain and ultimately to apply for citizenship.

    All listed groups support Dreamers, ranging from 61 - 28 percent among Republicans to 94 - 5 percent among Democrats.

    Support for Dreamers has ranged from 77 percent to 81 percent in every Quinnipiac University National Poll conducted this year.

    American voters oppose 58 - 39 percent building a wall along the border with Mexico. The only listed groups to support the wall are Republicans 77 - 17 percent and white voters with no college degree 52 - 44 percent.

    The Trump Administration has been too aggressive in deporting illegal immigrants, 50 percent of voters say, as 13 percent say the administration has not been aggressive enough and 33 percent say the administration has been acting appropriately.

    "When does public opinion become a demand that politicians just can't ignore? Two- thirds of American voters oppose the family separation policy at our borders," said Tim Malloy, assistant director of the Quinnipiac University Poll.

    "Neither quotes from the Bible nor get-tough talk can soften the images of crying children nor reverse the pain so many Americans feel."

    "And if you are a Dreamer, voters say, 'We have your back,'" Malloy added.

    Illegal immigrants currently living in the U.S. should be allowed to stay and eventually apply for citizenship, 67 percent of American voters say.

    Another 8 percent say they should be allowed to stay, but not become citizens, and 19 percent say they should be forced to leave.

    Among Republicans, 48 percent say illegal immigrants should be allowed to stay and apply for citizenship, while 9 percent say they should be allowed to stay, but not become citizens, and 36 percent say they should be forced to leave. All other listed groups support by wide margins a path to citizenship.

    Legal immigration to the U.S. should be increased, 30 percent of American voters say, as 17 percent say it should be decreased and 49 percent say it should be kept the same.


    From June l4 - 17, Quinnipiac University surveyed 905 voters nationwide, with a margin of error of +/- 3.9 percentage points, including design effect. Live interviewers call landlines and cell phones.

    The Quinnipiac University Poll, directed by Douglas Schwartz, Ph.D., conducts nationwide public opinion surveys, and statewide polls in Pennsylvania, New York, New Jersey, Connecticut, Florida, Ohio, Virginia, Iowa, Colorado and Texas as a public service and for research.

    Visit poll.qu.edu or www.facebook.com/quinnipiacpoll

    Call (203) 582-5201, or follow us on Twitter @QuinnipiacPoll.
     
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