Antifa thug with metal pipe gets knocked out.

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  1. Mr_Truth

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    you were saying?
     
  2. Steve N

    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I said, The left doesn't care about Nazis. What they do is call their opponents Nazis in an attempt to make their violence, riots, etc appear justified. Obama wasn't a complete Nazi, he's a Muslim socialist.
     
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    A Liberal Nazi Socialist gets knocked out.
    A Liberal Nazi Socialist gets knocked out.

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    Is that Steve N?
     
  5. Mr_Truth

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    thanks for making my point
     
  6. RP12

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    A Meme is your evidence?
     
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    you may click on search for my earlier links to photos involving your pals in the Tea Party
     
  8. RP12

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    I am very familiar with you using memes to show your point instead of actual debate.
     
  9. Mr_Truth

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    a picture is definitely worth a thousand words - as Shakespeare wrote, ''brevity is the soul of wit" ;)
     
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    Most Nazi’s didn’t believe in either of those. They were just protecting Europe from Bolshevism. I mean there were black Hitler youth troops and Jewish Nazi’s ffs.

    The genocide you speak of wasn’t a genocide, it’s the result of a nation being unable to feed itself, let alone its prisoners, ask the Red Cross.

    They did the exact same thing America did, but on another continent, a continent where the war was being waged. (Do you honestly believe we would have kept feeding the Japanese interned here if the tables were turned?)

    So please, explain the hate.
     
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    I think its best at this point to end this dialogue as i have enough infractions in the past and i dont see how else i can respond to such utter nonsense.
     
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    LMAO - I love seeing the blackshirts in TotallyFa get their asses waxed.

    But this is even funnier:

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    You know you've hit rock Anarcho-Marxist bottom when some dude gives you a wedgie...:roflol:
     
  13. Polydectes

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    Lol anybody that says Hitler is a Nazi. You are supposed to refer to that person as "he who shall not be named."

    Lol
     
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    Yes it is a attempt to dehumanize the opposition.
     
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    Meh - "progressives" are already there...
     
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    When I was growing up in Texas in the 1950s, anyone who expressed support for school integration was labelled a 'Communist' or 'ComSymp' by many rightwingers.
    It was a way of cutting off debate by people who couldn't debate.

    Today, it's the opposite. The Left uses the term 'fascist' or 'Nazi' for anyone they don't like. This isn't exactly new: the Communists called their Trotskyist rivals 'fascists'.

    Same same. The people calling liberals 'Communists' back then were deeply ignorant -- everything they 'knew' about Communism they had gotten from
    people like Fred Schwartz and Christian Anti-Communist Crusade [I had to listen to him at school assembly].

    Today, people throwing around the term 'Nazi' wouldn't know a Gauleiter from a cigarette lighter, what NSDAP stood for or its program for dealing with unemployment [although if it were presented to them without a label they would endorse it immediately], what the Third Period was, or the Red Referendum, or 'Nach Hitler, Uns' or .... much of anything, really.
     
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    To the local gun store.
     
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    I just burst out laughing when I saw that.

    Wanting you to keep your money and also protecting the borders from illegal Crossings that's like the Holocaust right.

    Lol these guys are jokes.
     
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    I know NOTHING....

    I have a copy of Irving's Hitler bio myself, right next to it was The Mind of Adolf Hitler, the Secret Wartime Report and the most fascinating one by far The Psychopathic God, Adolf Hitler is across the room in the other shelf. My copies of Alan Bullock's Hitler, A Study in Tyranny and Shirer's The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich seem to have escaped my camp. Pity, but they were old and due for hardback replacement anyway.

    There is one very important difference between me and many of the people who share my obsession with what is, if you go by the number of lives affected, the most influential human who has ever lived, I didn't vote for Donald Trump, have never supported him and never will. The similarities between the two men and their "movements" are just far too uncomfortably many and close.

    If you did vote for and support Trump, and you have a working knowledge of Hitler and Nazis, then i have to conclude that you have at least a tolerance of Naziism that goes beyond most people's.
     
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  21. Doug1943

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    Aleksander Ulyanov: don't think you can get very far in understanding Nazi-ism, by a detailed understanding of Hitler's personality. Not that the latter isn't useful for understanding his decisions, but Hitler didn't create the conditions that allowed the fascists to come to power, he just shrewdly took advantage of them.

    In any case, Hitler was a far more intelligent man than Trump.

    What they have in common is (1) that neither have/had any moral boundaries, (2) both operate/operated in the context of a powerful nation undergoing a strong shock -- in the case the Germany, the loss of the war and the subsequent punitive treaty, and then -- which is absolutely crucial to Nazi success -- the Great Depression. (For book-readers, let me recommend Piers Brendon's The Dark Valley -- a Panorama of the 1930s. ) .

    To be precise, the United States has not had an equivalently strong shock yet, but it has had a series of small and medium-sized ones: its inability to enforce its will in Iraq and Afghanistan, the 2008 economic crisis, the rapid advance of a completely different 'ordinary morality', and, above all, the erosion of well-paid working class jobs, which, combined with the decay of the family, has meant that the white working class is beginning to experience the catastrophic social conditions of the urban Black ghettoes, with young white working-class males beginning to exhibit the social irresponsibility of lower-class young Black males.. (In this respect, a useful book is Charles Murray's Coming Apart. You have to read the book, you won't get to hear Murray speak, at least not on a university campus, because the local Sturmabteilung [translation: Social Justice Warriors} will violently attack the meeting.)

    All of this could portend something pretty unpleasant in American politics.

    However, militating against anything like American fascism is this: the German state, under Weimer, was the old Kaiser-state, staffed by deeply conservative traditionalists -- when violent Communists appeared in their courts, they received harsh sentences, when violent Nazis did, they got a slap on the wrist. And of course the German military, despite aristocratic disdain for the Nazis, hated the Communists like poison. The American state is more like the British state, accustomed over centuries to the rule of law. You'll note that although Britain too experienced the Great Depression, when a prominent Labour Party leader split away to form a British Fascist organization, it never got serious mass support (as shown at the polls).

    Even more important is this: fascism necessarily is racist (in the genuine sense, not in the snowflake sense). American fascism will have to confront the fact that the core of the American state, its military and police, are heavily minority: the military is 30% minority and its officer corps, 20%. And is my impression, from my own time in the Army and subsequent observation, that most white people in the military have pretty strong bonds with their Black and Latino fellow soldiers. (In fact, I think the US has more to fear some day from a cross-racial military coup, than from classic fascism.)

    Finally -- we must not forget a crucial factor in the Nazis' rise to popularity: the fact that the adherents of the little brother of Aleksander Ulyanov [the real one] set the example for violent coup attempts in Germany, of which they made several. And they attacked Nazi gatherings, when the Nazis were just a tiny eccentric band of ultra-nationalists -- the SA were formed originally as a defense corps against Communist attacks. (I won't draw the obvious analogy.) And ... the Germans had only to look over their shoulder to see Communism in action: firing squads and gulags and the middle class destroyed. Most of them didn't like it, but a significant section of the German working class did. The Nazis played on this danger, and some people have tried to downplay their subsequent policies by claiming they were copying the Soviets. (Exactly what role the example of Bolshevism played in helping Hitler gain power and then carry out his genocidal policies is disputable. Those interested in this dispute can start here. )

    But at the time, although Communism was frightening, it was not automatically equated with abject economic failure. Now it is. So no one fears that some powerful socialist country, exporting an alien ideology, threatens America.

    I don't think anyone can predict what's coming in the US. Trump won't cure any of America's economic problems, the Democrats seem stuck now as the party of illegal immigration and ghetto welfare mothers and whining privileged college snowflakes; the old Republican party in all its factions has been destroyed by Trump....

    What could precipitate something very bad is if the Chinese move too fast in their displacement of the US as the dominant world power. Some incident, like the sinking of some big capital ships of the Seventh Fleet, or an unwise acceptance of an invitation from some nearby uppity Latin American country to station a few PLA units on their territory which we can't do anything about ... something like this, coming at a time of widespread social unrest ... might knock the US out of the democratic orbit ... but the future is unpredictable.

    And that's my main objection to the easily-tossed-around label of 'fascism'. Of course, as someone who in the eyes of those who use this term so loosely is a 'fascist' (because I am against open borders, don't think the main problem that Blacks have is white racism, don't think that men are just women who can't have babies) ... of course I object to its use for that reason.

    But that's pretty trivial. The real problem is this: we need all the smart thinkers, right across the political spectrum, we can get, to try to steer us through the next few decades. They need to know a lot of history, even though history never repeats itself. And the 'fascist' label gets in the way of clear thinking.
     
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    Got a lol from that. :roflol:
     
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    You might have read the works but you obviously did not understand them and the later part of your post shows this.
     
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    BWAAAAAAAH! He's even got the cuffed pants, haha...
     
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    Who fires the first shot?

    After that ALL bets are off on any civil conversations...
     

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