How to shut down people who complain about Hillary winning the most votes.

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  1. edthecynic

    edthecynic Well-Known Member

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    Only for minorities you mean!
     
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    How so?

    You mean it could result in purging million so illegal demcrat voters?

    Hopefully yes

    But it could also exernorate your side and give you a major talking point
     
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  3. Liberty Monkey

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    No illegals, why is that hard to grasp?
     
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    edthecynic Well-Known Member

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    They look for common minority names in more than one state and then suppress the legal voters in both states.
    But people like Ivanka Trump and Steve Bannon who are actually registered to vote in more than one state were allowed to vote.
     
  5. Liberty Monkey

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    Tinfoil hats were invented for you.
     
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    If both voters have the same SSN its a dead giveaway

    Of course they could be using false documents which illegals are known to do

    But I doubt if the typical illegal hillary voter is that smart or that careful

    However there are cases of republicans voting twice and that would show up also
     
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    That is the lie Kris Kobach used to suppress legal minority voters.

    https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/the-gops-stealth-war-against-voters-247905/

    Will an anti-voter-fraud program designed by one of Trump’s advisers deny tens of thousands their right to vote in November?

    We had Mark Swedlund, a database expert whose clients include eBay and American Express, look at the data from Georgia and Virginia, and he was shocked by Crosscheck’s “childish methodology.” He added, “God forbid your name is Garcia, of which there are 858,000 in the U.S., and your first name is Joseph or Jose. You’re probably suspected of voting in 27 states.”

    Swedlund’s statistical analysis found that African-American, Latino and Asian names predominate, a simple result of the Crosscheck matching process, which spews out little more than a bunch of common names. No surprise: The U.S. Census data shows that minorities are overrepresented in 85 of 100 of the most common last names. If your name is Washington, there’s an 89 percent chance you’re African-American. If your last name is Hernandez, there’s a 94 percent chance you’re Hispanic. If your name is Kim, there’s a 95 percent chance you’re Asian.

    This inherent bias results in an astonishing one in six Hispanics, one in seven Asian-Americans and one in nine African-Americans in Crosscheck states landing on the list. Was the program designed to target voters of color? “I’m a data guy,” Swedlund says. “I can’t tell you what the intent was. I can only tell you what the outcome is. And the outcome is discriminatory against minorities.”
     
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    You mean deny millions of illegals don't you?

    We can work Voter ID, we can pay special attention to minorities. What we can't do is let illegals vote!
     
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    ...dude, it's Over. Your girl could have won by simply claiming to do Whatever the guy of the Right does, but for ten percent less And help out with social costs.
     
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    It's simple, really. Stop illegals from voting. Stop making it possible to repeat vote. Enforce proper voting laws across the board.

    Project Veritas did an awesome video on the topic:
     
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    And the elderly, the poor and anyone who ever did anything odd or unusual in regard to voting. According to a Republican election judge I worked with one year I would be purged in most audiits. I have never missed an election, not one, not a primary or a special since I became a voter. I would be kicked off without notice, nobody has a voting record that good.
     
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    That works both ways.

    Without the EC you are effectively cutting out the smaller populations from having a say in the election. States with higher populations are currently represented by their higher number of electoral votes so you are represented and so are the smaller areas.

    This means that losing or winning the popular vote is irrelevant. The popular vote is not representative of how the nation feels as a whole. Like I said.
     
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    I'll get to it. I have these 75,000 Illuminati Conspiracy tapes to get through first.
     
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    Oh, right , now I understand, we have to even the votes out, Your side didn't win so we have to discount all these votes that were too concentrated in one area. Next time we can throw out everybody that's too spread out, one way or another we'll get the "right" candidate in

    There are 65,000,000 PEOPLE who voted for Hillary and 62,000,000 who voted for Insane Orange, but the 62,000,000 live spread out over a greater acreage so they represent how the country feels "as a whole". uhhuh, yeah. I see.. It's the "country" that elected Trump, not the people in it, no the country, the soil and rocks and trees. Is that why he looks like an unharvested pumpkin?

    I'm sorry but I really con't continue here, My bullshit meter isn't made for this much overload
     
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    Correct.

    Its because as people spread out their politics change. Most high concentrations of people share the relative same beliefs. This was true when the Founders designed the EC and one of the main reasons they did it. Even the Supreme Court has declared the one man one vote policy, of which, a direct popular vote would invalidate.

    Imagine if it were conservatives that hovelled together in high population centers, would you still support an election decided by popular vote?

    I don't think you would.

    What having the electoral college does is to force candidates to travel the entire nation and listen to the problems of people in each state rather than just spending their time in only a few of the highest populated states. Without the EC there would be absolutely no reason for a candidate to ever go to Wyoming or Alaska rather than California, they would spend all their time there because that's where the election would be won.
     
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    You know it's really bad that despite all our modern communication people still have to actually go to a candidate's rally and listen to their speech or they'll never have any idea of what platform they're running on, which all pols put entire into all their speeches and you somehow always remember without fail. Wow, that's really something, and here I thought the several days and months and what seem like years of political ads and discussions and debates and more god-cursed discussions and debates and speeches and ads were just as available to people in Wyoming as to anyone else. Silly me.
     
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    It only appear incomprehensible to people blinded by their hate and TDS.
     
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    Free free to call Hillary the president of California and leave the US. LOL
     
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    Keep telling yourself that.
     
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    I would also ask exactly what is the nightmare the snowflakes complain about. Lower taxes? oh the horror, wipe out ISIS? Say it isn't so. Restore respect of the US around the world? Yep he has done that. Could it be raising revenue to the government through lower corporate taxes? Yes that is the result. Still looking for that nightmare. Could it be watching democrats crap themselves nightly on TV complaining about things that haven't even happened, maybe a nightmare for them but pure entertainment for the thinking class of Americans.

    Did Y'all see the recent interviews on college campus asking students about Trumps scotus pic, the one he hasn't actually made yet. and the kids responded one after another about what a racist the pic was and how it is the end of the world. The real nightmare is that stupid people are allowed to vote and they vote as a block democrat.
     
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    Correct. I don't contradict projections, I merely point them out. Its a pile of stinking bullshit that doesn't merit a dissection of its stupidity.\

    Are you familiar with Brandolini's Law? Of course you are. Thats why exploit it so often.
     
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    Didn't wipe out ISIS. Sure as hell hasn't restored respect for America. Raising revenue by lowering taxes? Which explains the exploding deficit on track for over a trillion this year.

    AS for snowflakes, I wouldn't go throwing that label around. The radical racist right wing fascist fringe are the biggest ones around here. They dish it out with abandon and then whine like babies when its given right back to them. Rather pathetic really, but hey, what else can one expect from that crowd?
     
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    I find it amazing that with all those consecutive nightmare presidents, America has remained the strongest, richest, most dominant nation in human history. Boy its was so bad before trump that only he can fix it.

    Can't get any more superficially partisan than trashing everyone who came before because so people believe america used to be great, although no trumpette can actually tell you when it lost its greatness. Not surprising given their perspective.
     
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    I don't recall claiming that only Trump can fix anything. It would take willing members of both Houses of Congress to do that.
    Read my post more closely, it was set in motion in 1913 with the Federal Reserve Act, along with passage of the 16th and 17th amendments. The Great Depression provided the needed 'crisis' allowing the Federal government to become accepted as the primary source of life in bad times through application of our fiat monetary system which has resulted in gradual but constant inflation of the cost of living. When it lost its greatness can only be answered by each individual who found inflation in the cost of their living to exceed their value to their employers. But it appears to have reached a point where the cost of living in the U.S. has exceeded the value of a great many individuals labour value, exacerbated by competent third world workers who even with complimentary rates of inflation have yet to reach their apex.
    Perhaps Trump won't make things any better at all, but I'm certain Hillary would have only made things much worse. Personally, I don't think it is possible to return to anything near the times we experienced after WWII unless we experience a WWIII. You can count on the cost of living increasing and the debt only growing larger.
     
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    So you think the "greatness" that trump's america is yearning for is the 50's? Seriously? talk about rose colored glasses.

    The reason that wages have not kept pace with cost of living and inflation is because the bulk of the money flows to the tippy top of the pyramid. A fact exacerbated by the recent tax cuts. (I am a proponent of the tax reform tho - moving to global standards levels the playing field)

    The deficit is going to hit a trillion bucks this year. You think trump can go for Obama's record and deliver another solid "win"?
     

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