Charges in DNC hacking

Yep if Trump has a good meeting with Putin its going to be spun that he is a traitor or "colluding" .... What nonsense.

 

True the Russian dossier.

 

In fairness, there is that alternative theory to the overwhelming evidence that Putin conspired to help Trump and hurt Clinton in the 2016 presidential election, an attack on the US that demands Russia be punished, There is also the "Witch Hunt!" notion, that it is all about Trump and people being mean to him.

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The latest indictments provide just the latest evidence of Moscow’s campaign to meddle in the 2016 election and help then-candidate Trump.​

The CIA, FBI and NSA have all said in no uncertain terms that Russia meddled in the election, and did so with the aim of helping Trump. The Republican chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee has endorsed that conclusion. Trump’s own secretary of state, Mike Pompeo, has acknowledged that he believes it to be true.​

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Trump:

"It could also be lots of other people. It also could be somebody sitting on their bed that weighs 400 pounds, OK? You don’t know who broke into DNC!”

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“Maybe there is no hacking! But they always blame Russia. And the reason they blame Russia because they think they’re trying to tarnish me with Russia. I know nothing about Russia! I know — I know about Russia, but I know nothing about the inner workings of Russia! I don’t deal there. I have no businesses there. I have no loans from Russia!”

“I don’t believe they interfered. That became a laughing point, not a talking point, a laughing point.”

“He [Putin] said he didn’t meddle. He said he didn’t meddle. I asked him again. You can only ask so many times. But I just asked him again, and he said he absolutely did not meddle in our election. He did not do what they’re saying he did!”

“Every time he sees me, he says, ‘I didn’t do that.’ And I believe — I really believe that when he tells me that, he means it. But he says, ‘I didn’t do that.’ I think he’s very insulted by it, if you want to know the truth. Don’t forget, all he said is he never did that, he didn’t do that. I think he’s very insulted by it, which is not a good thing for our country.”

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/07/13/trump-statements-russia-meddling-719281


Insulting Putin (as opposed to the heads of state of US stalwart allies, apparently) is "not a good thing for our country," but surrendering to an attack by a hostile foreign power is?

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The American "justice" system is a joke. Special interests are never brought to trial. Poor people populate the prisons for crimes against the state. The rule of law in this country has been dead in the water for years, at least since the days of J Edgar.

 

I see your seven minute time limit passed and therefor time to put up the "no Trump fans going to touch this issue" nonsense. LOL

 

And then there are the ACTUAL FACTS about who COLLUDED with Russian meddling:

FIRST (even AFTER giving Putin control of 20% of our uranium reserves) :



And then:


The Obama team knew that the Russians were meddling


https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/car...-the-russians-were-meddling-varney/vi-AAz1iN9




Obama cyber chief confirms 'stand down' order against Russian cyberattacks in summer 2016

https://www.yahoo.com/news/obama-cy...ssian-cyberattacks-summer-2016-204935758.html


Wow...talk about "COLLUSION".

WHAT DID OBAMA KNOW, and WHEN DID HE KNOW IT?


WHEN IS THE WITCH HUNT GOING TO "INVESTIGATE" THIS?

 

Indeed it is. It's TEH BIG STORY. But let's put this news from its head back onto its feet; I invite you to read the following analyses and reflect upon it:

On Thursday, Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein announced that 12 Russians had been indicted for hacking some voter lists in the last election. This is meant to be seen as fruit of the Mueller investigation.

Let's assume that the indictments reflect the true state of affairs, and let's review the bidding in this episode in light of that assumption:

• This hacking, this interference with our most important national activity – the election of the president – represents failure of the CIA and failure of John Brennan as director of the CIA. The original reason for forming the CIA back in the 1940s was to prevent another Pearl Harbor – that is to say, another secret attack on the United States. This hacking represents failure of that mission.

• This hacking, this interference with our most important national activity – the election of the president – represents failure of the counterintelligence mission of the FBI, failure of James Comey as director of the FBI, and failure of Peter Strzok as head of counterintelligence of the FBI.

• This hacking, this interference with our most important national activity – the election of the president – represents failure of the Obama administration to protect and defend the United States and is a failure of Barack Obama's tenure as president of the United States.

So far so good (bad, actually)... right? Read on:

The person who had absolutely nothing to do with, no connection whatsoever with, this hacking is Donald Trump, who was a candidate in the election and who was extending every effort to make his case to the public and to get every vote he could. He was participating in good faith. Our national security apparatus, by taking a lax attitude to its duties and perhaps not acting in good faith, was damaging Donald Trump as well as the public at large.

These indictments, coming so long after they would have been relevant, highlight the miserable failure of our national security agencies due to the liberalism of their leaders – which is why they were appointed and which resulted in abandonment of their duties to the nation and to the Constitution.

In short, these indictments are part of a travesty of disloyalty by our senior national security and law enforcement bureaucrats to the United States of America.

https://www.americanthinker.com/blo...ines_intelligence_community_incompetence.html

Well said, Mr. Richards

 

Why hasn't the Witch Hunt "looked into" THAT, OBVIOUS abetting Russian meddling instead of interviewing MMA fighters...?

 

I did. You inferred innocence when none existed. Try again.

Actually it was. I know its hard for you but please try and keep up.

When classified emails were found on an outside server sent by her that's a violation of the law. When she destroyed subpoenaed emails that was a violation of the law. None of that is in dispute with the FBI or even most liberals who have some sense of reality left.


Here's a list. Try reading it for the first time.

U.S. Code § 798 – Disclosure of classified information

1. 
   U.S. Code § 1031 — Major fraud against the United States
   U.S. Code § 371 – Conspiracy to commit a federal offense
   U.S. Code § 1924 – Unauthorized removal and retention of classified documents or material
   U.S. Code § 2071(b) — Concealment, removal, or mutilation generally
   U.S. Code § 1346 — Definition of “scheme or artifice to defraud”
   U.S. Code § 641 – Public money, property or records
   U.S. Code § 1343 – Fraud by wire, radio or television
   U.S. Code § 1505 – Obstruction of proceedings before departments, agencies, and committees
   U.S. Code § 1519 — Destruction, alteration, or falsification of records in federal investigations
   18 U.S. Code § 793 — Gathering, transmitting or losing defense information

https://ijr.com/2016/11/727129-11-f...-accused-of-breaking-the-last-one-is-a-doozy/

This is about facts not your blind loyalty to a failure. The FBI's own findings prove she broke the law.

Prove that BS claim. We both know you can't.

I'm not the one relying on a man who has proven himself to be 100% biased to the man he was in charge of investigating and 100% in support of the woman he let off by his own texts.

Let's try this @raytri and see if you can be honest. Why was the wording changed from the legal definition of a crime "grossly negligent" to "extremely careless"?

Go ahead, dance for me.

 

Of course, no one "gave Putin 20% control of our uranium reserves" but the fake meme is a diversion issued by the Trump propaganda machine for the desperate to parrot.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/hillary-clinton-uranium-russia-deal/

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Despite Trump intimate Bam Bam Banon labeling Trump's agents' (Li'l Don, Kushy, and Felon Manafort) covert meeting with Putin's agents "treasonous!", I withhold speculation but, for all practical purposes, the Trump Justice Department Special Counsel seems to have developed a preponderance of evidence that eliminates Trump's "somebody sitting on their bed that weighs 400 pounds!"

 

So it’s just our chickens coming home to roost?

 

There’s still no evidence her server was hacked.
Are you saying no republican would mishandle classified info? You guys put a foreign agent in as national security advisor lol
There wouldn’t have been a need for a SP (remember when you all refused to call him a prosecutor?) if trump hadn’t fired Comey and admitted it was because of Russia

 

if it’ll l stop the constant deflection to Hillary then sure

 

The problem with your statement is that the President cannot be indicted for using his constitutional powers so a special prosecutor cannot be engaged for that reason.

 

But then who will donate to the Clinton Foundation, or who will Obama promise "more flexibility after the election" to, after helping them gain control of 20% of our uranium reserves?

 

Yeah...let's get back to the OBAMA STAND DOWN ORDER to our intel services, against the Russian Meddling, and why TF the Grand Buffoon has NEVER "looked into" that....

 

Why’s that a problem?
And I’m not sure of that anyway. Scotus hasn’t weighed in.

 

Pretty clear you cannot indict a President for using his constitutional powers. If you can prove otherwise then do so.

 

Nice strawman.

 

The Constitution has. ONLY CONGRESS can "indict" the POTUS, through IMPEACHMENT, and only the SENATE can try him/her.

Once removed per impeachment he becomes just another citizen.

Winning the election is NOT an "impeachable offense", even when your POLITICAL OPPONENT calls off our Intell services from stopping a foreign nation from meddling in the election.

 

Well it’s not a crime for starters.

 

How about for crimes unrelated to his powers?

 

Isn’t your argument that it’s ok because we do bad stuff too?

 

Obama knew it was happening. Why didn't he do anything?

 

He did.

https://www.npr.org/2018/02/21/5876...a-stop-russia-s-election-interference-in-2016