Thousands protest Tunisia gender equality proposals

I support gender equality by the government as the constitution requires. Not much anything else beyond that.

 

Do you have a better interpretation?

 

You might make a good politician. You avoid answering the question by posing new questions--then flavor it with a sprinkle of blame. Nice.

 

OP, the world is getting queerified. The young people love homosexuality. 63 genders now and still counting. See Wiki. Thanks Obama!

 

Your post illustrates a general theme on the topic being discussed. Your first impulse was to "fix the woman." That ties in nicely with the general idea that there's an underlying assumption in our society that it's the woman that needs the fixing. That often gives way to unconscious prejudice, which is the main issue this forum thread is all about. I submit it's not always the woman who needs fixing.

 

Of course if she needs fixing, fix her.
Liberal's always wanting to give other peoples money away to be dropped into a bottomless pit of socialist inspired ghettos.

IN my day most women prepared for the day they would marry, not shack up and have kids on welfare but MARRY. Most all had too much self respect and this thing called pride to ever even consider welfare aka begging. We had Hope Chest that we would buy little household goods for our future home preps. Men also wouldn't marry till they could afford to take care of a family, back to pride .

 

Since welfare accounts for less than 0.5% of our national budget, eliminating it would make a difference so small you'd have to use a microscope to find it. This is another of those inflated issues popular with heartless conservatives.

 

HEARTLESS! you want to talk heartless lets talk about all the drive bys, children dying in the crossfires or just sitting in their homes, drugs and mothers on drugs having children whos fathers desert them, now thats heartless. Most children are raised in single parent homes.
I can remember when these same hoods were decent places to raise a family and fathers were there till the welfare took over the fathers jobs and the gov allowed drugs to flo into the nation along with cartels and immorality.
I saw black and white families [ fathers included ] walking down the sidewalks to church in their Sunday best, men in hats and ties, women wearing fancy hats and kids dressed up too. Most didn't even lock our doors.

 

I don't disagree with anything in your post. In fact, i concur completely. The situation you describe is both heartbreaking and for me an enigma. I don't even pretend to understand how people living there allowed themselves to descend into that morass. Being in agreement with you on this doesn't negate my former post though.

 

Well we can agree it is a sad situation for todays people. It makes me cry sometimes to see the news anymore.

 

Again, you and I agree.

 

Yeah. Men spend more time on average at work and less time at home taking care of the children and the house, when compared to women. Men chose professions that pay more because of dangers, uncomfortable conditions and exhausting labor, that women tend not to choose. Men have a tendency to be aggressive and assertive that women do not. Probably about 20 other reasons that have nothing to do with discrimination against women, combined with the others that could explain the actual 20% difference between comparing all mens incomes to all womens. And the claim there is a 30% difference "FOR THE SAME WORK" is simply made up BS that half the population it too frickin eager to lap up.

 

I don't want to hear them whine until they do something about the blatant discrimination against men, especially heterosexual men in the hairstylist and ballet dancer professions.

 

We can't have equality because we're all not equal but we can strive to have fairness.

 

Why just mention women? I know guys who took that role on as their wives had high paying jobs and were the bread winners.

Even on a thread on equality, the posts don't reflect it!!

 

Think it has more to do with the fact that under our laws, it is the woman alone who decides whether she is going to give birth to a child or not.

 

Because men are not whining about making 20 or 30% less.

 

When I say I support gender equality I don't mean sameness. I mean equality under the law--or having no difference in the protections for our rights due to gender. I mean having the same right to pursue our own personal dreams in life without restrictions based on gender. I also extend these same considerations to race, religious preference, sexual preference, social status, or economic status. The human rights quoted in our founding documents should apply to everyone equally without prejudice. Period.

 

If you had a growth within your body that was unwelcome for whatever reason, wouldn't you want the right to make whatever decision necessary to deal with that intrusion? I'd bet you would.

 

Clearly I mentioned both men and women.

If women make less money than men, it's because they choose to do so.

If they choose to live a childless existence and work 80 hours a week, and are good at their job, they'll be paid as much as any man.

If they choose to work high risk, high pay jobs, good for them.

There's a reason 93% of workplace deaths are men.

If you'd like women to be 50% of workplace deaths, more power to you.

 

What it is, society defaults to housewife, the guy being the breadwinner. The current movement is towards equality.

No we don't, all things being equal.

For a woman who spends as much time working as a man, and as many years working as a man, their pay is equal.

If they take years off to raise a child, or choose not to work as hard (it's important to remember most women do not CHOOSE to be workaholics), then they don't make as much.

No we don't, all things being equal.

For a woman or a man who spends as much time working as their partner, and as many years working as their partner, their pay is equal.

If they take years off to raise a child, or choose not to work as hard (it's important to remember most women do not CHOOSE to be workaholics), then they don't make as much.

 

Great.

I look forward to seeing 50% of workplace deaths contributed to by women, instead of the current 7%.

Until then, you're not really equal I suppose.

 

Well, this equally crap is Utopian in idea.

The women claim, my body my choice. A bit different when they have a kid and the guy dumps them. Then they want the guy involved, money off him. Ah, so the choice is shared now!

 

Come tell me about equality when 50% of workplace deaths are women.

 

Are they.

If not, equally ain't working.

50% of blokes should give birth.