Does a fetus have rights

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  1. FoxHastings

    FoxHastings Well-Known Member

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    EXACTLY! BECAUSE IT IS!


    WTF do you think women are under doctor's care during pregnancy?

    EVERY pregnancy causes women physical pain and harm......and they have the same right YOU HAVE to stop that harm whenever they choose to.
     
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    You've got it backwards(no surprise) …. it gets protections because it doesn't have rights....
     
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    ALL pregnancies harm women and present a health risk....ALL......
     
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    Ok but so what.

    A viable fetus still has a right to life barring some very specific exceptions
     
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    No they do not in the US unless the the doctor agrees they are in danger to their life if the fetus is viable. You are simply factually incorrect
     
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    No fetus anywhere or at anytime is given rights....period. You cannot do so either regardless of how loudly you stomp your feet and hold your breath. When the ZEF is born it becomes a baby with rights which is why laws are made to protect them.
     
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    Sir you have a position that is not substantiated in facts. The fact remains that a viable fetus has the right to life barring some exceptions.
     
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    Actually, since you seem so focused on FACTS please present one that shows YOUR position to be accurate. This would be some form of legislation that deals ONLY with fetal rights and not the mother.

    Here is a Look at Fetal Protection Statutes and Wrongful Death Actions on Behalf of Fetuses

    No state interest described by fetal rights advocates has enough force to override a woman's fundamental rights of privacy, bodily integrity, and self-determination. . . . Until the child is brought forth from the woman's body, our relationship with it must be mediated by her.*
    https://www.aclu.org/other/whats-wrong-fetal-rights
     
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    How can I make this any clearer? You can not kill a viable fetus barring some exceptions. That means that fetus has the right to life. You would violate law much like Gosnell did and go to jail if you kill a fetus not covered under those exceptions.
     
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    Got It....so you cannot produce the requested data....no surprise as it does not exist.
     
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    I have produced the facts. The fact is a viable fetus has a right to life barring some exceptions
     
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    Quit stomping your feet and holding your breath.....Mommy wont give you the candy.
     
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    Thank you....State laws that will likely not be upheld, but you did provide the requested Data. I suppose what you say it accurate in Maryland.
     
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    bringing charges is one thing, proving murder of a non human being is quite another & they know that, so the silly, unlawful law was made to appease the lifers... votes
     
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    Now you are just whining. I politely tried to debate with you and have agreed with you in debates many times in the past. But when I disagree you start whining.
     
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    And 38 other states
     
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    What is your definition of a right? Maybe there is some confusion.
     
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    Yes, I noticed that you and other posters don't seem to know that the word "right" is NOT the word "protection"....they are two separate words and are two separate words since they mean different things...
     
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    any pregnancy IS a medical issue. This is correct. A woman should have the right to decide if she is willing to subject her health and body to this risk. And she should be allowed to do so without having to practice monogamy. One should be allowed to have sex without fear of the burden of a child.
     
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    Not after viability though because then the fetus has a right to life
     
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    And when do you consider it viable? I am of somewhat of a similar mind.
     
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    Personally I consider that to be at week 24 but some states do vary on this with Alabama being the shortest at 19 weeks.
     
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    I have brought this up before and have not received any rational arguments against it. I am pro-choice but I believe a fetus has rights from inception to birth and here is why:
    All living things have a right (a moral entitlement) not to be abused, tortured or their life taken without sufficient reason. A fetus is a living thing. A fetus has a right not to be abused by the woman who intends to take it to term. That would mean getting help for any addictions and living as much of a healthy lifestyle as she can.
     
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    Interesting. So it has a right to life after viability but it has a right not to be abused prior to that. I'm not sure on that.....can the mother be charged with a crime if she uses drugs while pregnant?
     

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