Angela Merkel - Nations Must Give Up Sovereignty To New World Order

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  1. Caligula

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    If you know exactly what she said, then you must be fluent in German.
    This is what she said, but you've probably already read this:
    https://www.kas.de/veranstaltungsberichte/detail/-/content/-das-herz-der-demokratie-

    Please show me the sections in the original where she says "nations must give up their sovereignty", "must give up sovereignty to new world order", and where she says "nation states must not listen to their citizens when it comes to questions of immigration, borders, or even sovereignty". Show them to me, thank you.
     
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    Merkel said "nations should be willing to give part of their sovereignty away"......snip~

    Btw.....this isn't the first time she has said such.




    Published on Nov 24, 2018
    'Give up SOVEREIGNTY to EU' Merkel's swipe at UK amid threat to DERAIL Brexit.

    She told the event, titled ‘Parliamentarianism Between Globalisation and National Sovereignty’: "In this day nation states must today - should today, I say - be ready to give up sovereignty. "But of course in an orderly...
     
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    Of something has been repeated from thousand shitholes, it does not make it true.
     
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    You hopefully realise that there is a considerable difference between "nations must give up their sovereignty" and "nations should be willing to give part of their sovereignty away" (which, btw, is my own translation).
    These two statements are very different in semantics and don't support your claim that the OP is true in any way.

    Where exactly in the original did she say "must give up sovereignty to new world order", and where did she say "nation states must not listen to their citizens when it comes to questions of immigration, borders, or even sovereignty"?
    Thanks.
     
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    To bad its not the first time Merkel has let her piehole overload her thinking processes. Naturally those for globalization would deny reality at all cost. At any cost.

    You are welcome to link up the transcribed copy in English.
     
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    If you find out please tell me.
     
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    There is no difference other than the term "should". Her meaning and intent is clear. Even with the use of the word should. Nations should be willing to give up part of their sovereignty.

    Again comprehension is key. She clearly isn't saying they shouldn't give up part of their sovereignty. She isn't sticking up for nations and their sovereignty.

    Oh and Globalization is the New World Order. Or at least the attempt at it. Like I have shown. This isn't the first time she popped off at the mouth.

     
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    Actually you're wrong. Ideologues believe the end justifies the means, so there is an indifference towards human life and suffering as long as they can achieve the end result they want - otherwise they wouldn't be aiding Washington in killing off the 'untermenchen' populations. Since they have acquired a high status within their own societal standards, it stands to reason that they will hold those standards as being superior and therefore try to impose them on others for their own 'good'.

    Merkel has impoverished almost all the nations in the EU with the exception of some liberal 'northern nations', since they have similar standards. As for France, Merkel has it tagging along to give some credence to the EU - but they're suffering regardless.

    To be honest I think they all take their advice from the voices in their heads - or their spiritual guides whichever you prefer. Regardless it's not a good source.
     
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    The OP didn't say Merkel said it. There is no quote. But whether she said it or not Merkel's endocrine is exactly what the OP says. If I steal your money I don't have to tell you I am doing it in order for it to be true.
     
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    Konrad Adenauer Foundation in Berlin.

    Konrad Adenauer Foundation - Wikipedia
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Konrad-Adenauer-Stiftung
    Furthermore, the Adenauer Foundation authored a "Common Declaration" in partnership with the Friedrich-Ebert-Foundation, the Friedrich-Naumann-Foundation, the Hans-Seidel-Foundation, and the Heinrich-Boell-Foundation which explored various mission statements and financing models of political foundations in Germany.

    All you needed to do is look up who she was speaking too.
     
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    Modal verbs are there for a reason and the meaning changes drastically.
    There is no difference other than "should" here?
    - "nations must give up their sovereignty"
    - "nations should be willing to give parts of their sovereignty away". And you talk about comprehension?? Either your is really bad or you're deliberately ignoring things that don't fit your views. These are very different statements with very different meanings, let alone the different phrasal verbs. But you're changing the topic here.
    I simply asked for the sections where she says "must give up sovereignty to new world order", and where she says "nation states must not listen to their citizens when it comes to questions of immigration, borders, or even sovereignty".
    Where in the original does she says that? Don't give me off-topic youtube videos, please stick to the question. Ta.
     
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    One world government, to equalize incomes across the globe.

    What could go wrong?
     
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    Duran's opinion of what Merkel said was not formed on the spur of the moment, but by her past actions. Look what she did to Greece and what she's doing to Britain? What kind of union can there be among nations when one country deliberately destroys another as punishment? The EU is not going to survive. One person even called it a cult.
     
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    The incomes will never be equalized, there will be the corporate owners, and the workers/slaves - and that is the intent.
     
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    What Merkel said is that nations must be prepared to give up their sovereignty in an orderly fashion. Isn't that part of the liberal New World Order that Soros has been pushing forth in the million and one NGO's supported by his Open Society Foundation?
     
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    Kanzlerin Angela Merkel was a product of East German communism, and all true communists are internationalists who always work against any individual nation's sovereignty and independence. In 1968, Merkel joined the Free German Youth (FDJ), the official communist youth movement sponsored by the ruling Marxist–Leninist Socialist Unity Party of Germany. "The apple never falls far from the tree"... especially when that 'parent-tree' lived in a completely indoctrinated political vacuum like that which existed in the East German communist country. Thus, Angela Merkel is as easy to see through as a glass of water....

    What's Macron's excuse? Not sure of that, except that when you consider France from the mythical '40,000-foot level', all by itself, it hasn't really been worth a damn since Napoleon was defeated in 1814... and aimless worthlessness is both enduring and contagious....
     
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    So now giving false qoutes is called "opinion"?
     
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    The Trilateral Commission was first.

    Then the cultural-marxist jumped onboard with all of their political correctness bull ****.
     
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    Well it doesn't surprise me (the sovereignty comment) when you think about it the EU is all about merging Europe together, you can't keep you sovereignty and merge at the same time... oxymoron.

    I think the EU is a massive experiment (merging so many cultures AND bringing large numbers of migrants in from other continents). When (not if) it backfires I'll thankfully be sitting on an island continent at the opposite end of the world.
     
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    She, unlike YOU, is aware of Germany's DECLINING POPULATION,the birth rate has fallen 11% since 2000.They have empty houses and no one to fill them and sewer systems rotting from lack of use.She, like INFORMED GERMAN's, realizes that business will decline and collapse with a declining population a very similar or even worse situation is occurring in Japan where empty homes are sitting rotting.We white people are seeing a similar decline in the USA.
     
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    Europeans often appear willing to relinquish their freedoms for a new system of some sort, and always with foreseeable results.
     
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    And to get most everything wrong is so typical of today's leftists. Conservatives, by the way, enjoy their sovereignty.
     
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    None of you wouldn't know the truth, or sovereignty, if either bit you in the ass.
     
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    So go ahead and bite me.
     
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    There is a difference between a false quote, and an interpretation of a quote since it is a foreign language. Duran gave an educated interpretation of what Merkel said when taking her previous actions into account. Anyway there are no such things as direct quotes from one language to another. To give you a humorous example of that, in a google translation from Greek Kerry told Lavrov that he found him provocative. (I never got over that one).

    Anyway I find the Duran refreshing in that they are real journalists and able to give their honest opinion rather than just stenographers that are being told what to write.
     
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