Poll: Americans don't believe Trump has received the message from the midterms

Your use of the term bipartisan is FALLACIOUS and you did move the goalposts since we were discussing the BIPARTISAN SENATE bill, not the House.

 

Pres.Trump wasn't on any ballot in 2018.

 

Donald Trump disagrees with you.

Granted, after the election took place, he changed his tune because **** him if he is every going to admit fault.

 

Okay I would have thought you would have learned not to trust polls. they were mostly saying that he was going to lose the election and he won. A reasonable person would take polling with a grain of salt.

 

Trump outperformed his polling by ~1%. That is well within the margin of error for every single poll that gets published.

If it makes you feel better to think that Trump has a nearly 59% disapproval rating, you go for it.

 

that's because of your rage and pettiness. You can't blame your immaturity on Trump.

That's what all presidents to it's their base that gets them elected. Barack Obama did it too and there were nutters raging about him.

yes that's what oak residents to it's their base that elects them this can't be news to you.

he represents you just because you don't agree with him doesn't mean he doesn't represent you unless you renounced your citizenship. Barack Obama was the president of my country when he was in office I wasn't too happy with him but he represented me. He didn't agree with me he didn't represent My views but sometimes you win elections and sometimes you don't. Understanding that is a fundamental of maturity that you are lacking.

What are you going to do if Donald Trump wins in 2020?

 

so the polls aren't really useful.

I don't think that Trump has a 59% disapproval rating in general according to some poll maybe. But the polling is unreliable.

 

Poll: Americans don't believe Trump has received the message from the midterms
I'm one of them. Trump is impervious to both facts and the truth. Neither have any meaning for him. He's a "know it all," and reminds us often. How anyone can believe in, support or vote for this insult to humanity, is a real mystery.

 

YOU said the House rejected the bill and I said that meant it wasn't bipartisan. Case closed.

 

If you dont want to learn anything new, then you will never learn anything.

I have tried to show you a thousand times, with real world facts and data, why you are wrong. I am done banging my head against your brick wall of a skull.

Stay inside your bubble, or dont. You are on ignore for me now.

 

Egregious DISTORTION of what I actually posted duly noted for the record!

This is what I wrote;

The Senate Bill on Immigration Reform was BIPARTISAN!

That is an IRREFUTABLE FACT!

Your asinine semantics are just a waste of time.

 

"Semantics" refer to the meanings of words, like bipartisan, meaning both parties, and irrefutable, meaning not able to be refuted, which I did, so it's obviously not irrefutable. Stop misusing words.

 

Ironic PROJECTION duly noted and ignored for obvious reasons.

 

Then why does he control the Senate, majority of governorships and Supreme Court? And why were his losses in congress smaller than Bill and Barracks? As long as Trump can mobilise his base he can win again, the Dems need a moderate candidate to win back blue collar voters and to offer America something beyond anti-Trumpism.

 

He controls the Senate, the Majority of Governorships, and the Supreme Court because Republicans already held control over those positions before he won the election in 2016 and because of the state of play of the Senate map in 2018.

His base was mobilized in 2018. He lost massively.

 

Your beloved BLOTUS has just LOST the 3 key states that tilted the Electoral College. Florida has just added a million more voters to it's voter rolls. Approval ratings below 49% indicate that the electorate wants someone else in the Oval office. The base that the BLOTUS has is SHRINKING as more and more women on both sides of the aisle are motivated to vote AGAINST him.

The Dems no longer need a "moderate candidate" to "win back blue collar voters". That fallacy was exposed by the Progressives who energized and motivated the Exhausted Majority that resulted in the Blue Wave. If they would do that in the Midterms they can run anyone they like in 2020 and still win.

 

No he didn't, he slightly more than the average incumbent did but boosted his control of the Senate, that's not 'massive'

 

Not my beloved anything, how do you know that million will vote against Trump? A lot can happen in 3 years and surely after 2016 we don't trust polls. I think a lot of people voted for Trump not because they like him but as a protest against what he opposes (the sort of Demicraziness we saw at the Kavanaugh hearings).
There was no Blue Wave, it was barely a ripple, anti-Trump hysteria did not turn into votes, it was the GOP base that was fired up by the Kavanaugh effect, even TYT thought so.

 

in 2010 the GOP won with 45 million votess.

In 2018 the Dems won with 61 million votes. )Your beloved BLOTUS only received 63 million votes in 2016.)

The 2018 midterm turnout was the highest in over a century!

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-poli...term-elections-turnout-women-trump-exit-polls

So what we see there is a MAJOR SHIFT by women AWAY from your beloved BLOTUS!

In 2016 the Dems only had 43% of white women voters, in 2018 they had 49% which is a MASSIVE shift of 6%.

The math doesn't lie and no amount of denialism is going to alter those numbers.

 

No my beloved anything and not denying anything, you have to see if those numbers will transform into votes and seats and as 2016 showed us you cannot sit back and expect to cruise to victory based on stats.

 

From 2010 through 2016 the GOP managed to win about 1000 legislative seats nationwide from the Dems largely through gerrymandering and voter suppression.

Ever since the BLOTUS was imposed on the Oval office there has been a paradigm shift in the OPPOSITE direction culminating in 2018 with 40% of those lost seats are now back in the hands of the Dems.

So yes, those numbers have transformed into Dem votes and regained seats all across the country.

The MESSAGE for retaking control of our country back from the GOP is being carried by PROGRESSIVES and it is resonating with the Exhausted Majority who are now turning out in record numbers.

The GOP are the ones who are stuck on "cruise control" believing that their SHRINKING base can still win.

They can't because We the People do not want what the GOP is trying to ram down our throats.

The Midterms marked the Turning Point and the Progressive movement will retake the remaining 60% of those lost seats in 2020 and 2022.

 

The 'Progressive Movement' is why people voted for Trump in the first place, it was the 'exhausted majority'' who were rebelling against the liberal establishment. It was the 'deplorables revenge'. .

 

Wrong!

The Progressive Movement was started by Bernie Sanders during the 2016 Primaries. 88% of Bernie supporters went on to vote AGAINST your BLOTUS in the general election.

Since you really don't appear to know anything at all about the Exhausted Majority I recommend that you read this link.

https://hiddentribes.us/

BLOTUS supporters are identified as being "Devoted Conservatives" together with "Traditional Conservatives" and some, but not all, of the "Moderates".

BLOTUS supporters were NOT "rebelling against the liberal establishment" whatever that might be? They were conned into following the Shyster-in-Chief with his dogwhistles, bigotry and endless lies that exceed 10 a day on average.

 

Not my 'BLOTUS', not even American. The progressive movement and hysterical post like yours are why people voted for Trump, the liberal establishment are those who thought Hilary would cruise to victory by divine right and then started squealing when their bubble was burst.

 

Thanks for admitting that your grasp of politics here in America is seriously lacking in subject matter knowledge.

The Dem Establish is NOT remotely "liberal". It is just an alternative to the odious GOP with a slightly less inhumane approach to the electorate. It is just as much of a political puppet of the Wall Street Casino Bosses as the GOP is.

The Independents come from both disaffected moderates on the left and right and want nothing whatsoever to do with the Corporate Corruption that CONTROLS the two major parties.

On the right the Tea Party was the first group to breakaway from the GOP Establishment. Unfortunately they were gullible enough to be suckered into being funded by corporations via PAC's. The GOP embraced the far right extremists and that resulted in their becoming the PURE WHITE party with all the nefarious undertones that includes. There was a great deal of infighting and the moderates and saner Republicans found that they could no longer tolerate being associated with the bigotry and hatred that has become the hallmark of the GOP under YOUR BLOTUS. (Yes, he is yours since you are defending him and his policies.)

Bernie Sanders offered an alternative vision of America to discouraged members of the Dem Party. His message gave birth to the Progressive Movement. Unlike the Tea Party the Progressives identified that Corporate Funding was the root of all political evil and they shunned it completely. Instead they used AltBlue in order to raise funding from individual donors only. This strategy was not only successful it even OUTRAISED those using corporate funding. Having won elected offices nationwide there is now a struggle within the Dem Party between the old Establishment and the new Progressive movement. It is too early to determine who will ultimately prevail.

Those are the facts that you were patently unaware of so you are welcome.

Have a nice day!