Poll: Americans don't believe Trump has received the message from the midterms

Please do not edit my quotes for "cheap shots".

 

except that turned out to be republicans with absentee ballots

 

Or in other words, do what the left wing, main stream media, tells him to do? Man, you people have it bad.

 

This is great analysis here. Thanks!

I keep telling Liberals, that they really don't get it/how many millions of

Spoiler: stat quo

descendants of 'The Mayflower'

are angry at the Dem's mantra to turn America over to the White HISP & LGBTQ communities.

Independents might not be GOP Republicans, but they comprehend that they all still share the same ancestors who docked upon Plymouth Rock!

 

The former. The mainstream media is not a free press anymore. It is compromised. Essentially, it has become a propaganda machine for the left wing counter culture movement.

 

How is it compromised? Give specifics

HOW did it become a “propaganda machine for the left” - why and who is paying??

 

If the "left wing, main stream media" is telling him the same message as the majority of voters?

Yes.

 

Trump just won the Senate for the next 6 years. The Dems won the House for the next 2 years.

Trump is ahead by 4 years worth of support.

Meanwhile...

1. Ginsberg just had more cancer removed for what is left of her frail body. Trump can nominate a replacement and the Dems can't stop him with the new, more conservative, Senate..

2. Pelosi can pass anything she wants but has no way to guarantee that it even gets through the Senate.

3. With the troop withdraw in Syria, Trump now has about 17.5 billion dollars of DOD discretionary funds available.

 

Women have been voting less for Democrats in the last 3 elections

2008 — 56%
2012 — 55%
2016 — 54%

Meanwhile they are shedding men like crazy

2008 — 49%
2012 — 45%
2016 — 41%

 

Hilarious how bigoted they actually are, right?

 

The 2018 midterm election actually ranked quite average when compared to the past

There have been 28 total midterm elections since 1910. Here are the averages and how 2018 stacked up:

House
Incumbent party lost an average of 32 seats, 2018 Republicans lost 41.

There were 13 elections where the incumbent party performed worse ranking it the 16th most successful if 28 elections for the Republicans in recorded history.

Senate
Incumbent party lost an average of 4 seats, 2019 Republicans GAINED 2.

There were 24 elections where the incumbent party performed worse ranking it the 4th most successful if 28 elections for the Republicans in recorded history.

The average total seats lost for an incubant party are 36 in both house and senate.

2018 Republicans lost 39 seats, ranking it the 16th most successful election for an incumbent party in US recorded history.

So 16 of 28?

Sounds about average, which is obviously not a “blue wave”. It’s sad how often the media completely lies

 

Poll: Americans don't believe Trump has received the message from the midterms
Poll: Americans don't believe Obama has received the message from the midterms
Poll: Americans don't believe G W Bush has received the message from the midterms
Poll: Americans don't believe Clinton has received the message from the midterms
Poll: Americans don't believe G H Bush has received the message from the midterms

 

Cool story.

Can we go back to your original claim? Whether trump has lost support amongst independents in the five key swing states? What are the five key swing states?

 

Your post was informative, if selective in how you presented the information. You ignore the circumstances for each party, like the demographics of the Senate seats up for grabs.

The last sentence was complete and utter garbage though. There are numerous statistics that show this election was certainly a blue wave, from the total number of votes cast for house Democrats vs house Republicans to the total number of seats flipped at all levels of local, state, and federal elections. Any media narrative that explains those facts and why they constitute a blue wave are not "lies."

 

You wrote those in large bold letters as if to indicate that they are links. They are not.

And, in fact, the OP provides the same same answer for the poll for Obama. He demonstrated that he learned from the midterms by a significant margin when compared to trump.

 

You left off 2018 for some reason (the topic of this thread) and you also failed to address that women are both more enthusiastic about voting and out voting men in the most recent elections.

 

If mcconnell does not pass funding for the wall he is a failure and should step down as majority leader

 

If trump keeps running from his own claim of credit for the trump shutdown, he is a failure.

 

Doesn't that beg the question as to exactly how few women are left who still identify as Republicans given his endless misogyny?

Yes, I am sure that the small handful who are left do support him but all of the women with any sense of self respect have already abandoned the GOP.

 

Just to put this into perspective;

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_party_strength_in_U.S._states

Women make up just 40% of the GOP which means that only 10% of the electorate are GOP women and since only 90% approve that gives your beloved BLOTUS support a measly 9% coming from women.

Given that women are the largest voting bloc and they are OPPOSED to your BLOTUS he is in a load of trouble heading into 2020 with that abysmal level of support in that demographic.

 

Here is the deal that for some reason you are ignoring. In modern history, midterms have seen the opposition party return to some power, to pick up seats. So, why is this midterm different? It isn't unless you want to use it as an excuse to say trump is losing support. We will know if he actually has lost support in 2020, if he runs again, and we see the outcome of that election. Until then, this is nothing but pure conjecture, with some wishful thinking and hope thrown in for seasoning.

Obama lost in is first midterm, right? And continued to lose seats at the state and federal level thereafter, if I recall correctly. So, it is normal, right? Not abnormal. And it signifies nothing but what we have seen in modern history when it comes to midterms. Surely you must admit this, given it is a fact?

On polling, the 2016 election should have proven that when it comes to trump, you cannot trust polling or polls. Until this proves itself otherwise, like in 2020, polling cannot be trusted as reflecting reality. I don't see how a reasonable person could think contrawise.

 

In reverse order.

The polling in 2016 was accurate to within 1.5% of the national vote. Trump outperformed his polling projections, on average, by about 1%. You can trust polls.

The notion of waiting until 2020 to see if trump still has support when he relies upon other people to get his agenda done, today, is pure folly. There is a reason that the topic of this thread is whether trump learned the lesson from the midterms.

The out of control party almost always does well in the first midterm, but never by this margin of popular vote for the house and rarely by the size of seats picked up at all levels of government. The previous presidents who saw such massive losses were also being sent a message by the voters. A message to adjust course, to appeal to more voters, to expand their base or risk more losses in the future. Trump has shown absolutely zero indication that he has learned that lesson (in direct contrast to previous presidents that saw such losses) and that is, in part, why he is losing even more support today.

Providing excuses for why you think trump should remain the course and to wait for 2020 is absolute nonsense and harms the country.

 

I'm a very bold person so I use bold font.

 

Riiight

 

I care what trump does more thqn what he said

And he’s doing what I want him to do

But I also know the anti trump lib media will blame trump anyway fir doing the same thing obama did