Democrats Crack on the Wall

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  1. Ddyad

    Ddyad Well-Known Member

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    LOL! You have already admitted Congress can impeach Trump among other things. Do you think that is a better strategy for the DP than this already successful shutdown?

    I am all ears - how would that work Vegas? ;-)
     
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    I think the best strategy is to let trump have all the credit for this shutdown. He says it is his so just agree with him. Trump is screwed. Lol
     
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    Gassy Don is wimping out on his fake pretense of a national emergency to con Americans into giving him $5.7 billion for his wall that he repeatedly promised Mexico would pay for.

    Most Americans concur that Trump stinks, and do not want his wall.

    Meanwhile, vulnerable members of Trump's cult who were fleeced by a scam for a privately-funded seizure of the private property of Texans will be getting their money back. (Some may well be Trump®U alumni who had been taken in by that scam and had to be reimbursed.)

    Meanwhile, Trump's shutdown of the government out of spite for not being given $5.7 billion by the Americans taxpayer for his big, beautiful wall (for which he is "proud", takes full responsibility, and vowed he would not try to blame others) is "compromising" - on US security and the safety, and is inflicting financial hardship on public servants and other innocent Americans.
     
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    Esperance Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Read my post again.

    Trump did own this until Pelosi stumbled on Trump's question.

    Instead of the normal blabber, she gave a direct and unquestionable answer.
     
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    But trump says he shut down the government. Only he can reopen it. Right?
     
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    This talking point is backfiring so badly that Trump didn't even take Lindsay Graham up on his prompt to go ahead with the emergency option.

    Trump is giving the public plenty of time to digest just how out of touch the coastal Democrats are with the heartland.
     
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    That just didn't work. Everyone knows the government is shut down because the DP House refuses to fund The Wall, and Congress cannot pass a budget without funding for The Wall - can they? ;-)

    This is the Pelosi/Schumer DP shutdown - unless Democrats in the House abandon their principles, cave into Trump and fund The Wall.
    And I certainly hope they never ever do that! Ride this shutdown all the way to 11/2020 Vegas. How many Democrats can there be out there willing to cave in to Trump? How many Chers are there out there - right? ;-)
     
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    Only trump can reopen the government
     
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    Esperance Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Constitutionally speaking, that is incorrect.
     
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    Everyone knows trump shut down the government.

    He told us so on national television. Lol
     
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    Trump is apparently going to give them plenty of time to sit on their principles - and revolve. ;-)
     
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    Make your case who other than trump can reopen government?
     
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    But that wasn't true! How many times have we been told that Trump does not tell the truth? Nobody fell for that. :)

    It's the DP's shutdown and they need to sit strong on their principles and defy that awful Donald Trump to the bitter end - if necessary.
    Have faith - I am sure he is about to blink - I can feel it. Just sit tough Vegas. This will all work out - in the end.;-)
     
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    To most Americans in general, it is about the actual policy and not about the political struggle.

    Trump is looking at polling that shows he is on the right track.
     
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    Trump's resorting to a fake "emergency" to seize the private property of Americans has resulted in all nine members of Congress representing districts along the U.S.-Mexico border, Democrat and Republican alike, opposing funding of his wall that he had repeatedly promised Mexico would pay for. Their constituents would defend their constitutional rights and speak truth to power via the courts for years if necessary.
     
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    Dems are apparently also looking at the polls or they would not be caving. I have done everything I can to encourage them to hang tough, but there is only so much I can do for their cause. Perhaps Trump will agree to build a windmill for them to knock down for their fan base after this is over.
     
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    Lol you said democrats have principals.... Hahahaha
     
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    Trump said he was responsible for the shutdown. He owns it.

    This is crushing him. Lol
     
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    You really have Trump against the ropes.

    Dems seem very worried.

    [​IMG]
     
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    Why does the left pretend to be so stupid when it comes to protecting our borders? They can't really be this dumb....it has to be all an act right?

    Nobody is saying the wall will stop everything. It's just one measure to help with protecting our borders. It's simply one of many things that need to be done.

    The jackass left thinks that because tunnels exist we should forget about the wall. That because there's more than one way to enter illegally we should just forget about the wall. That's idiotic and i refuse to believe lefties are this stupid. I maintain that it's all an act simply to push an agenda......but I've been wrong before.
     
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    I hope trump drags this out for months. He owns it.....according to him
     
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    Open Borders Democrats are against the Wall, because the KNOW that WALLS WORK!

    And if you think they got their asses kicked in last weeks dueling speeches, if they are dumb enough to still have the government shut down for the SOTU, oh my gosh, are they going to have their heads handed to them.

    They need to put their petty partisanship aside and come to terms with the US President and reopen the government and secure the border.

    Their current crap isn't going to be tolerated much longer by the American People.

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    I don't know how much longer the american people will tolerate this. I hope you're right and it isn't much longer, but I think many on the left care about opposing trump and nothing else. For this reason i think it might take longer than you think. I believe eventually, if the left is successful in keeping our southern border porous, that the national security issue will eventually become too important for the people to ignore....even lefties.
     
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    Unless Trump is finally cracking on DACA, there is no deal and wont be one
     
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    the country is so divided, I think it could last Trump's next two years..... if Trump want's to be a lame duck, guess that is on him

    the left is fine with border security, don't believe Trump's lies, what we will not support is a wall of china on the southern border

    if Trump cared about border security, why is there still 1.6 Billion left from last years budget and another 1.6 dems gave him for this years budget? why has Trump not spent last years money on security yet... does Trump not care about border security
     
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