Perspectives Perspectives on Stillbirth and Late Termination of Pregnancy for Fetal Anomalies

Discussion in 'Abortion' started by Bowerbird, Feb 1, 2019.

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How would you support someone whose baby has a severe life limiting deformity

  1. Tell them to make the hospital do everything possible

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  2. Tell them to spend every last cent keeping the baby alive

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  3. Sever the relationship if they decide to palliative

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  4. Call them murders for deciding on palliation

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  5. Support them no matter what the choice

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    54.5%
  6. Council them and help them through end of life care

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  1. vman12

    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Judging by the general format and tone of your responses, which resembles something created by cutting letters out of a newspaper and gluing them to a screen, you should take your own advice in bold.
     
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    ARDY Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Wow, that is quite a leap.... from one abortion to genicide
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    More black children are aborted than there are born every year.

    What would you call that?
     
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    Wildjoker5 Well-Known Member

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    Especially when that was Margret Sanger, Hillary's idol, outspoken plan from the inception of planned parenthood.
     
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    I call that black women having the same rights as white women....do you object?
     
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    Unfounded bull

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    The true genocide

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    Yes.

    I object to the murder of the unborn regardless of their skin color.
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So "unfounded bull" and "the real genocide" are the same chart.
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    I call that black women having the same rights as white women....do you object?


    So, yes, you object to black women having the same rights as white women?????


    Then why did you post (Post 103) :
    """"More black children are aborted than there are born every year.

    What would you call that?"""
     
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    No Guttmacher is not unfounded bull.


    Again you seem to think black women shouldn't have the same right to abortion as white women..YOU keep bringing up the color of the women..


    And DUH, PP is located where it's NEEDED and that isn't always minority communities....would you rather they be located in the richest sections of the city ??? WHY????

     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Sure.

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    Tell me about them.There might be some issues like parents putting up a child for adoption but there are just as many issues in children having abusive parents etc.
     
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    a still birth means it was born. How does a woman make a stillbirth? Or do you really believe that at the moment of birth the woman says I think we should make this an abortion. This just shows contempt for women
     
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    born dead.

    How is that different from abortion?
     
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    Are you saying that they “abort” a live baby at birth? That doesn’t happen Do you think a woman should have to carry a dead fetus for nine months?
     
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    :) :) :) I KNEW you would NOT be able to address my post :)

    FoxHastings said:
    No Guttmacher is not unfounded bull.


    Again you seem to think black women shouldn't have the same right to abortion as white women..YOU keep bringing up the color of the women..


    And DUH, PP is located where it's NEEDED and that isn't always minority communities....would you rather they be located in the richest sections of the city ??? WHY????



    BTW, as to your silly link, Sanger was invited to speak to Klan women about birth control and as your link showed the meeting was "crashed" by uninvited Klansmen.

    All women have a right to learn about birth control....even Klan women.
     
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    Sure, killing black babies is just as important as killing white ones.

    Keep defending Sanger, though. It's very amusing.
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    :) :) :) I KNEW you would NOT be able to address my post :)

    FoxHastings said:
    No Guttmacher is not unfounded bull.


    Again you seem to think black women shouldn't have the same right to abortion as white women..YOU keep bringing up the color of the women..


    And DUH, PP is located where it's NEEDED and that isn't always minority communities....would you rather they be located in the richest sections of the city ??? WHY????



    BTW, as to your silly link, Sanger was invited to speak to Klan women about birth control and as your link showed the meeting was "crashed" by uninvited Klansmen.

    All women have a right to learn about birth control....even Klan women.






    WOW! What a horrible thing to post!!!




    Keep vilifying Sanger with no proof....it is amusing how that seems to be all you have...
     
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    Saying it's bad. Demanding it actually happen though is all you and the rest of abortionist crowd.

    Tell me more about how you admire Sanger. Give us some examples.
     
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    Yes I'm aware that your leftist websites claim the photo is a fake, even though she did speak to the KKK and was greatly admired by Hitler.

    Let's look at some of your heroine's quotes (new "click" material, perhaps). She was such an amazing feminist.

    https://www.tfpstudentaction.org/blog/margaret-sanger-quotes

    1. "But for my view, I believe that there should be no more babies."
    -- Interview with John Parsons, 1947

    2. "The most merciful thing that the large family does to one of its infant members is to kill it."
    -- Woman and the New Race, Chapter 5, "The Wickedness of Creating Large Families." (1920) http://www.bartleby.com/1013/

    3. "We don’t want the word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population..."
    -- Letter to Dr. Clarence J. Gamble, December 10, 1939, p. 2
    https://libex.smith.edu/omeka/...

    4. “I accepted an invitation to talk to the women's branch of the Ku Klux Klan... I was escorted to the platform, was introduced, and began to speak...In the end, through simple illustrations I believed I had accomplished my purpose. A dozen invitations to speak to similar groups were proffered.”
    -- Margaret Sanger, An Autobiography, published in 1938, p. 366

    11. “A marriage license shall in itself give husband and wife only the right to a common household and not the right to parenthood."
    -- Margaret Sanger, "America Needs a Code for Babies," Article 3, 27 Mar 1934.
    https://www.nyu.edu/projects/s...

    12. "No woman shall have the legal right to bear a child, and no man shall have the right to become a father, without a permit for parenthood."
    -- Margaret Sanger, "America Needs a Code for Babies," Article 4, March 27, 1934.
     
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    Most of those quotes are totally untrue. Margaret Sanger was about birth control and yes black women and black babies died a lot more than whites. She wanted birth control available for these women..and this
    I do not want word to get out that we want to exterminate the Negro population." – A quote taken out of context (In context, it's apparent that she didn't want such word to get out because such a characterization of her work was common—and untrue. Then as now.)
     

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