Trump to declare National emergency for Wall

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  1. TheGreatSatan

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    The national emergency is internationals accessing our country unchecked and unregulated. Don't you think everyone who comes and goes from America should be checked and regulated?
     
  2. Bluesguy

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    And what money do you want to spend to stop the criminals, more money to police forces? Sure all for it.
     
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    I am afraid you will have to wait and remember, according to Alexandria Occasional Cortex we have 11 years and 11 months before it's all over.
     
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    I don't have a clue. But it will be a blast to see you all lose your minds when the next Dem POTUS declares National Emergencies to push his/her Liberal agendas & promises. LMAO
     
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    And? It would've been a start in the right direction. I lament to the Founding Fathers, that in this day and age we cannot agree on border protections.
     
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    The only emergency at the border is the family separation crisis Trump created. Border crossing are down, and the population of unauthorized migrants is down. If that's an emergency, anything is.
     
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    Don't know what to say... It's just so illogical on it's face that it's not surprising from this maroon.

    This guarantees almost no wall gets built during his term... it's possible even the amount authorized by Congress will get held up in the various lawsuits over the Fauxmergency...
     
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    The Founding Fathers didn't want a wall. There was actually very little federal immigration enforcement around the founding. If you were white and in the USA, you were pretty much seen as a future American. "Illegal immigrant" wasn't even in the lexicon. But now immigrants are brown, so here we are.
     
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    I see Asian Immigrants just the same as Latin Americans, or Oceanians or yes, Africans. Anyone who comes into the US illegally is an illegal alien who must be sent back to their home country of origin.


    In fact, it all began with the Chinese(1837.), The idea around proper immigrants were those who could contribute and adapt to our Western Way of life. And statistics have repeatedly shown more and more migrants incapable of this crucial task.

    This frank invasion of the American Homeland is also partially tied to the misinterpretation of the 14th Amendment. We will revise these horrific atrocities to US law and restore our legal immigration program.
     
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    Calm down Wally, you first have to take residence in the White House.
     
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    over 70,000 people dead in 2017 of drug overdoses
    thats over three times that dead from guns
    its over all those that dead in the Korean war the Vietnam war and all other war sense combined
    90% of those illegal drugs cross he Mexican border
    I that isn't a national emergency what is?
     
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    Presidents declare national emergencies all the time.
     
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    So I guess Mexico isnt paying for this wall after all?
     
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    Apples and Oranges. Truman tried to declare an emergency and nationalize the Steel Industry and got slapped down.

    I'm not sure Trump can sign this bill.

    It needs to be carefully examined for dozen poison pills that forbidding Trump from declaring an emergency, or empowering left-wing officials to block the wall, empowering the EPA to block the wall, limiting detention bed space, empowering local officials to create sanctuary jurisdictions without consequence, and so on.

    For example:

    Section 224(a) would make it so ICE cannot detain or remove anyone who has effectively any kind of relationship (even just as a "potential sponsor") with any unaccompanied minor:

    Section 224 (a) says that ICE may not remove any sponsor or *potential sponsor* or *member of a household* of a UAC [Unaccompanied Alien Child]. That's de facto sanctuary for anyone near a UAC.

    Ridiculous. 30-40% of MS-13 arrests have been UACs.

    The budget also provides $30 million to hire pro-migration groups that will guide migrants towards winning asylum.

    Rush Limbaugh is saying the spending bill actually forbids Trump to move money around via the National Emergency process.

    McConnell, however, after negotiation, is now saying he will support, rather than oppose, the declaration of a national emergency.

    President Donald Trump is ready to sign compromise spending legislation that would avert another government shutdown and will declare a national emergency to get additional funds for a border wall, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell said.

    McConnell said the Senate will vote on the plan at 3:30 Washington time Thursday. The House is set to vote later in the evening.

    The president "has indicated he’s prepared to sign the bill," McConnell said on the Senate floor. "He also will be issuing a national emergency declaration at the same time. I indicated to him I'm going to support the national emergency declaration."​

    The Valiant Freedom Caucus wants to just pass a one-week spending bill at current levels to give them time to read this monster bill and strip out any sneaky poison pills.
     
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    your complaining about 58 tragic as that is what's more tragic is 70,000
    that's right 70,000 dead as a result of an unsecure border
    70,000 is the amount that's been killed by a drug over dose in 2017and 90% of those illegal drugs cross the Mexican border
     
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    It wasn't until nonwhite Americans started immigrating to the U.S. that "illegal immigration" even existed. When white people were immigrating en masse, nobody called it "an invasion."
     
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    That's just what I'd do too. Pass the one-week spending bill, get rid of all Liberal amendments then pass a naked bill funding the government. They made it clear they don't want to help, fine. But no restrictions on the President's legal power.
     
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    Agree 100%. In fact, it was a Chinaman that gave us Wong Kim Ark, which is the case all the illegal anchor babies rely upon for 'birthright citizenship'.

    Back to this issue, the National Emergency Act only applies to War and National Defense.....not liberal social utopia green pipe dreams.

    https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/50
     
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    Yet building a wall goes back to WWII for civil defense and the laws passed since then codify the President can use the Army Core of Engineers to build it. the ACE has been doing domestic construction for decades.
     
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    No, decent people were not going to betray our nation's ideal by erecting a monument to fear and bigotry.
     
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    Because they went through Ellis Island, and actually adapted themselves to OUR society. I'm calling it an invasion, because that's what it is. And that's how much non-negotiable the issue is for me. They are not here legally in our country, nor do they feel obliged by our customs.

    The same situation wouldn't exist if you or I migrated to Mexico. I intend to uphold our standards, so come here right or not at all.
     
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    That's because they came in legally through legal ports of entry like Ellis Island.
     
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    What about steel is so fearful and bigoted?
     
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    There is no emergency at the border Trump you lying scab. This will trigger a chain of events over the next couple of weeks that will serve to test the checks and balances of our three branches of government. This POS will steal money which is appropriated for what is actually necessary spending just so that he can feed the maggots.

    The only emergency the USA has is the traitor in The White House.
     
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    Bingo


     
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