America Does not have a violence or gun problem. America has a black problem

Those type of programs don't prevent whites from getting loans or jobs. You are spewing nonsense. You have such persecution complex that it has filled you with such hatred. YOU personally have never been discriminated against.

 

... You don't think that a business owner takes into account a tax credit he receives for hiring a minority contractor over a white one? Are you smoking something?

And so let me make sure I understand. You would be perfectly fine if we had a program which gave grants and loans to white farmers but black farmers didn't have access to those funds.

You wouldn't be crying racism and screaming white supremacy if the government was giving businesses and local governments tax credits and subsidies to hire white contractors but not provide them for black ones?\

And I'll remind you that black people will pay taxes to support those programs and funds they don't get access to.

That would be fine?

 

So am I to understand that if the discrimination doesn't affect us personally we shouldn't be concerned with it?

 

There is no discrimination. You’re hysterical.

 

Wait...equal treatment under the law is not a right? Are you kidding??? Lol

 

If it were, would we have laws and government programs and policy that discriminate against me for being white?

 

I guess you guys hate the constitution

 

Why do you refuse to comment on the unconstitutionality of the discrimination against whites?

Because if you don't care about that, why should I care about the unconstitutional discrimination against blacks in the justice system when we're trying to curb their violent crime rate?

 

Then why not appy that to college admission? Your theory is based on statistics.....so is mine.

Asian kids get in first

 

You dont have to convince me....convince scotus

 

We ALREADY give black kids preferential treatment in school admissions. Why not whites and Asians?

 

I'm not talking to the SCOTUS. I want you to explain your hypocrisy.

I want you to explain to me why, if you don't care about discrimination against whites, why should we care about discrimination against others?

 

There is no systematic dicrimination preventing whites from getting jobs, loans etc. You sound silly

 

As long as you are consistent I am fine.

Asians get preference in sentencing and in college admission and graduate school admininissions

 

That's EXACTLY what it is. These are EXACTLY the same kinds of policies that your side cries about incessantly as being unfair to black people years ago. They are simply in their infancy.

 

Look I am fine with your plan....as long as you stand in second place to the asians. Ok?

 

Only in your mind

 

I mean I'm perfectly fine with either way you want to go.

If you want to get rid of discrimination against whites and blacks and everybody else. I'm with you.

If you want to make it okay to prop up or discriminate against any and all races based solely upon their race. I'm with you.

However, if what you want is to be able to legally discriminate against white people while making it wholly unacceptable to discriminate against black people then we're going to have a problem.

 

Actually, that was not his logic at all. But you gave a great illustration of partisan illogic. Can you not see that? I guess that begs the question, can irrational, illogical people discern the difference? My money says, probably not.

You can try to understand why the crime rates, particular ones are higher among the black population, but what cannot be refuted, logically, is that this group have higher rates. That is what the numbers show. And these are real numbers, and have to be accepted.

We need a study done, to see if IQ level and crime are related, for it probably is. IQ affects several things, I would think. From how many kids you have, to whether or not you can be a physicist.

 

I want to discriminate based on statistics. A white kid in kindergarten is less likely to be successful as a Asian kid in kindergarten when they grow up. Let's give every preference to the Asian kid.


Good with you?

 

Crime stats need to be adjusted for economic strata. Say if 50% of blacks make 30,000 or less compare that crime rate to Whites of the same economic strata. But please remove aggravated assault. too much leeway in cops and DA plea-ing.

 

Sure not a problem at all. If you want to be able to prop up or discriminate a group based upon race or statistical viability, like I said, I'm with you as long as it's all of them.

But you have to recognize there would be measures taken to counteract that, if we were basing our society on race, such as restricting immigration.

Hence why I would prefer we just didn't discriminate against anyone. But apparently your side doesn't want to stop discriminating against white people.

 

What??? You must mean you want to increase immigration from Asian countries....dont you? They are the most successful Americans. Isnt that what you want?

 

I want to hear you say you are fine standing in line behind the Asian guy....because he is better than you

 

No I want people who produce and don't commit an absurdly high rate of violent crime.

You're the one who made this about education.