185 killed in Sri Lanki Jihad Easter Bombings

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by Well Bonded, Apr 21, 2019.

  1. Well Bonded

    Well Bonded Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2018
    Messages:
    9,050
    Likes Received:
    4,354
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Take the 15 seconds to read the outline of the book linked to, it clearly answers the question your asking.
     
  2. Concord

    Concord Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 20, 2013
    Messages:
    3,856
    Likes Received:
    876
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Oh, so we can pretend that this discussion is only about a single attack and the specific individuals who participated in it?

    Please. You were responding to an atheist who seems to be on the Sam Harris train of seeing religion and religious doctrine as the greatest forces for violence that the world has seen and ever will see. A discussion on these lines requires one to consider the role that religion and especially religious doctrine plays in political violence.

    Your use of the slur "Koranimals" indicates that you believe that religious doctrine also plays a role in this attack. If you agree, then my line of discussion is appropriate. If you disagree, then you and our New Atheist friend are simply on different wavelengths.
     
    Last edited: Apr 21, 2019
    RiaRaeb likes this.
  3. RiaRaeb

    RiaRaeb Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Feb 18, 2014
    Messages:
    10,698
    Likes Received:
    2,469
    Trophy Points:
    113
    No they do not, because most people are reluctant to simply say, there is no god and if there was then he would not want you to kill anyone in his name. They pussyfoot around because they have their own god and do not want to recognise the simple truth.
     
  4. RiaRaeb

    RiaRaeb Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Feb 18, 2014
    Messages:
    10,698
    Likes Received:
    2,469
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I did it, it does not, why are you making that up?
     
    Last edited: Apr 21, 2019
  5. US Conservative

    US Conservative Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    May 19, 2015
    Messages:
    66,099
    Likes Received:
    68,212
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
  6. US Conservative

    US Conservative Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    May 19, 2015
    Messages:
    66,099
    Likes Received:
    68,212
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Death toll over 200 now.
    [​IMG]
     
    Well Bonded and ModCon like this.
  7. yasureoktoo

    yasureoktoo Banned

    Joined:
    Apr 27, 2018
    Messages:
    9,808
    Likes Received:
    2,351
    Trophy Points:
    113
    ain't religion grand.
     
    RiaRaeb likes this.
  8. ModCon

    ModCon Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2016
    Messages:
    6,323
    Likes Received:
    9,931
    Trophy Points:
    113
    As I like to say, a progressive could be decapitated by an Islamist, and the detached head would continue on with a screed about Christianity, the Western world, and Israel.
     
  9. Concord

    Concord Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 20, 2013
    Messages:
    3,856
    Likes Received:
    876
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Here's difference, people that I know personally were saying things like "I wish he'd gotten more" regarding the New Zealand shooter, and watched the livestream of the shooting with a kind of glibness.

    None of the people I know personally are taking the same attitude to the attack in Sri Lanka. The result is that both of these tragedies take a completely different tone to me. In a slightly different world, my cousin is the New Zealand shooter. That matters.

    I believe that this century is going to see Muslims killed by the tens of millions, mostly by Europeans. The dehumanization of Muslims taking place today is going to play into the coming catastrophes.
     
    Marcotic and RiaRaeb like this.
  10. Labouroflove

    Labouroflove Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 29, 2009
    Messages:
    12,838
    Likes Received:
    6,852
    Trophy Points:
    113
    LOL, propaganda. How many were killed during the Spanish Inquisition? About 3,000 over three centuries. How many witches were killed? 19. 14 women and 5 men.
     
    Gatewood, mngam, ModCon and 1 other person like this.
  11. yasureoktoo

    yasureoktoo Banned

    Joined:
    Apr 27, 2018
    Messages:
    9,808
    Likes Received:
    2,351
    Trophy Points:
    113
    People are getting pissed off at Muslims, and when the sh-t hits the fan, a lot of muslims will die.
     
  12. Concord

    Concord Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 20, 2013
    Messages:
    3,856
    Likes Received:
    876
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    And people like me see that as a catastrophe, and it plays into how we react to the New Zealand shooting versus the Sri Lankan bombings.
     
  13. US Conservative

    US Conservative Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    May 19, 2015
    Messages:
    66,099
    Likes Received:
    68,212
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Muslims are the biggest killer of other Muslims.

    Could we see violence against them by europeans?

    Absolutely and they aren't exactly making conflict less likely.
     
    ModCon likes this.
  14. Concord

    Concord Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 20, 2013
    Messages:
    3,856
    Likes Received:
    876
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Indeed, and we Westerners have played and are playing significant roles in the situation the Islamic world is now in.

    They already are, and it's going to get much, much worse.
     
    Last edited: Apr 21, 2019
  15. Steve N

    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jan 4, 2015
    Messages:
    71,765
    Likes Received:
    91,784
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    The New Zealand shooter was immediately labeled as a Trump inspired white nationalist. I just took a look at CNN’s reporting on this story and there isn’t a hint of who they think may have done this.
     
    Gatewood likes this.
  16. Darthcervantes

    Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Oct 4, 2018
    Messages:
    17,678
    Likes Received:
    17,812
    Trophy Points:
    113
    haha, another lib having to go back 100s of years to find Christian violence. This is getting old, sad, and quite pathetic. Time to find a new angle
     
  17. straight ahead

    straight ahead Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 20, 2014
    Messages:
    5,657
    Likes Received:
    6,574
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Stalin says hi. :machinegun:
     
    Gatewood and US Conservative like this.
  18. Concord

    Concord Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 20, 2013
    Messages:
    3,856
    Likes Received:
    876
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Yes, the political interpretations of events play an important role on how they're reported.

    For example, the elite classes of our country focus so much on the "Russia, Russia, Russia" scandal because it allows them to pretend that the current political moment is not one of their making, but a sort of alien intrusion. Trump, Brexit, Russia, and populism, they think, are aberrations that will fade away and normalcy will return. They can't face the fact that the world is changing and that they're failing to adapt.

    I too find it annoying that Al-Jazeera, in what I've read so far, hasn't so much as hinted at the bombers even existing. I also found it annoying that so many on the right were unwilling to accept that the New Zealand shooter is the symptom of the political moment we now found ourselves in.
     
  19. ModCon

    ModCon Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2016
    Messages:
    6,323
    Likes Received:
    9,931
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Pol Pot and Mao send their regards as well.
     
  20. US Conservative

    US Conservative Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    May 19, 2015
    Messages:
    66,099
    Likes Received:
    68,212
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    [​IMG]
     
    ModCon likes this.
  21. RiaRaeb

    RiaRaeb Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Feb 18, 2014
    Messages:
    10,698
    Likes Received:
    2,469
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Last thursday!
     
  22. Well Bonded

    Well Bonded Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2018
    Messages:
    9,050
    Likes Received:
    4,354
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Why would Al-Jazeera report such, they are an Islamic propaganda machine.
     
    Last edited: Apr 21, 2019
    US Conservative likes this.
  23. Concord

    Concord Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 20, 2013
    Messages:
    3,856
    Likes Received:
    876
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    They have a different political interpretation of the matter than you do, and so what they report and how they report it takes a certain tack.

    Would you be willing to accept the role that anti-Islamic rhetoric has in increasing violence against Muslims?
     
  24. StillBlue

    StillBlue Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 17, 2016
    Messages:
    13,398
    Likes Received:
    14,992
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Where are you getting info that Muslims were involved? I find nothing to that effect.
    Have you forgotten the recent civil war there? That wasn't about Islam at all and I should think that's a more likely line of investigation.
     
  25. Well Bonded

    Well Bonded Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2018
    Messages:
    9,050
    Likes Received:
    4,354
    Trophy Points:
    113
    You are not looking too hard it's all over EU media and so far a number of world leaders have condemned this attack in the name of Islam.
     

Share This Page