Another useless Middle East War???????

Is this what you guys want?

ANOTHER useless Middle East War based on lies, propaganda and half-truths?

we did this in Iraq, and it was a massive failure. 5,000 Americans died, hundreds of thousands of Iraqis dead. Trillions of dollars wasted. And no WMDs.

Today Iran is NOT developing nukes, no nation believes they are.

Trump tore up the nuke treaty, and started this whole fiasco!!

I think Trump wants a war for the election.

 

There wasn't any treaty.
To have a treaty the congress has to ratify it, they didn't. And neither did Iran I might add,

 

Let's think about this: 1,000 Iranian war ships patrolling our gulf coast and Iranian drones violating our airspace. What would we do? I think we'd have a lot less restraint with respect to military action than the Iranians.

This whole thing is just a huge provocation from the US side. Pompeo and Bolton just hope that stinging Iran enough, they will eventually react and give us a reason to declare war.

 

I don't think it comes down to "you guys". It comes down to what does Iran think they will gain if they provoke a war with American? Meddle in elections much? I hope the first thing we take out is their "peaceful" nuclear facilities.

 

Nobody wants a war, expecially Trump. But Iran committed an act of war and we need to respond whether we like it or not. A quick air strike on the place where the missile was launched should suffice to stop Iran's belligerence.

 

I totally agree with your assessment and I was waiting for Trump to try something like this. He has the two worst possible advisers telling
him what he wants to hear instead of what he needs to hear. Trump doesn't know what he doesn't know, "knows more than the generals", and makes decisions based on his "gut". A recipe for disaster.

 

There was an agreement. Call it what you want.

 

I think that Trump is looking for an excuse and wants a war. There is nobody in his administration to give him the advice that he needs to hear, but he does get advice from Bolton and Pompeo, two peaceniks.

 

bullshit.

Trump wants a war to help his poll numbers.

and to finally pay back his Neo-Zionist campaign donors.

 

President Carter should have acted and took care of the Iranian problem instead of expecting another President to take care of the problem.

The same thing happened with Iraq when President Clinton didn't take care of the Iraqi problem and enforcing the Iraq Liberation Act that Clinton signed into law.

If President Clinton hadn't broke the law and turned our four Iowa class battleships into museums there wouldn't be a problem today with Iran.

 

President Trump is downplaying this disaster. I don't think Trump is going to war over this. No need for blood lust. There is not going to be a war with Iran today.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/worl...been-mistake-trump/ar-AADaOXt?ocid=spartandhp

 

if Trump knows whats good for him he will NOT start a war with Iran

 

What are? Who is calling for another war?

 

Well, maybe if his boys were serving, he would take that into consideration.

However, they are just like their entitled dad, too good for serving, that's for the little guys who don't have any money.

Let's remember the quote to see the attitude:
'You think I’m stupid, I'm not going to Vietnam'

 

Neocons want it for several reason. The Military complex is big business, sold not as much as they would like since the Iraq War and country club dues are rising. A few guys, Bolton and Pompeo, want to show their buddies who have watched their careers flounder, that they meant what they said and can tell others what to do if they want. Israeli's want us to spend OUR billions to protect them, as they act as Apartheid rulers to the Palestinians, heard one quoted as "yes, they were here, but we were here 3000 years ago, thus, it belongs to us, and we are the Chosen ONES, yes, we are better and smarter people"
They as a country are Greedy too, the only nation in the world without debt, and we continue to send them our money, and add it to our debt.
The Israel Jewish in this country fund 20+ right wing think tanks, their posters litter this site, zero hedge, and many others with their ideology. Not really their own, but how they manipulated the white southern christian to think about life, the world, the bible, etc... Many post here and when you write something that id the truth, they just try to undermine your existence, or call you a SORROS Troll, or they just call you a name, As if Soros would pay people to preach good things about people and the world.

The right have now thousands of unamed fake posters online. this site probably has 100 of them, working in tandem, shifts, etc. to keep the gullible hating blacks, muslims, gays, women (to the extent they need to be home cooking)...

So yes, there are lots of reasons the right wing fascist want a war. Trump wants it because he wants someone to hate... His technique of winning trade wars, and meetings has failed over and over. He has been played on the national stage like the FOOL TV star he is...

 

Iran did not meddle in our elections. What nonsense is this ? Regardless - we are the one's doing the provoking - not Iran.

 

Yea...there's John Bolton ...one of the cheerleaders for the last disaster in the Middle East

 

why are our drones sooo close to their territory?

why are our ships???

maybe to provoke a war???

 

It was an executive order at best, niot something legally binding to the next administrations.

 

Do you have any idea of how wide is the strait? By your silly logic both the UAE and Oman are invading Iran territory...

 

As much as I abhor Trump at least he isn't a war monger like those who advise him [ie. Bolton].

 

That does not change the fact that what the Trump administration is doing is stupid, irresponsible, and harming the nation.

 

No it isn't. That's your personnal opinion, nothing more. The reality is that there never was a treaty and the US representative never gave their approval for the deal meaning that the USA was, and still is, against that deal.

 

Presidents are not bound by previous treaties or agreements. The fact is that he pulled out because he wants to kill all things Obama
at the expense of the American people. The smart thing to do was to keep the agreement and negotiate changes. Now we have nothing,
the Iranians are continuing their nuclear development and Trump is inching toward a conflict. That agreement was the beginning of a possibility for some kind of dialogue with Iran and we have been set back to the dark ages. They think we don't honor our agreements
and there is no longer a dialogue. Another brilliant move by your boy.

 

We have had numerous Russian aircraft just outside of our airspace and submarines just off our shore.. They have been doing this for years. We have never shot one down or sunk one.