Donald Trump wants to be a dictator ...

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  1. Reasonablerob

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    For what?
     
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    Uh, I thought it was impossible to elect a bloviating, nose sucking , orange colored thing with goofy hair, who tweets like a bullied pouting teenager, with the morals of a jackal to the presidency...
     
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    I know what you mean. I felt the same way when you elected the Kenyan. I feel your pain.

    After all the work Obama did to grow the welfare state of minorities, to build a coalition of wealthy whites and their landscapers, maids, and cooks, Trump comes along a creates the best employment situation for blacks and Hispanics in history. What will rich white Democrats do when minorities no longer need to be live-in slaves.

    Stay tuned. The NYT will be updating the coalition architecture for their Democratic Party from this 2011 mandate. Can't wait.

    https://campaignstops.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/11/27/the-future-of-the-obama-coalition/
     
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    http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/shattering-the-myth-about-the-trump-economy.558310/
     
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    Leftists have been accusing and mocking Trump for three and a half years. How many times do you have to be wrong to get it. You said he wouldn't run. He ran. You said he couldn't win the Primary. He won the Primary. You said he couldn't win the General and that Clinton would bury him. He won the General and buried Clinton. You said he was crazy. His success has made you crazy. You said he was incompetent. He has made great strides to reverse the lefts suicidal march over the cliff of socialism. You said he'd start wars all over the globe. He ended Obamas war and has started no new wars. You said he'd blow up the world. He did not blow up the world. You said he'd destroy the economy. The economy is better than ever. You said he'd destroy the environment. The environment remains the same. You said he'd end womens rights. Womens rights remain untouched. You said he'd destroy black progress. Blacks are better off than ever. You said he's a traitor. All evidence is to the contrary. You said he subverted the election. Yet your own party labored mightily and still labors to subvert and reverse the free and fair election. You said his Supreme Court appointments would destroy constitutional gains. His appointments have sided with leftist Judges on several major cases. You have spent three and a half years lying about this man, creating fear and social unrest. Yet you accuse him of being a liar and causing the fear and unrest because of his harmless and benign exaggerations and puffings which have no bearing on tranquility or on anyones place in their lives. I could go on, but this will suffice.
     
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  8. LafayetteBis

    LafayetteBis Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    When a country approves of a PotUS and his/her misdeeds, then it is the beginning of the end for it.

    Trump was not elected by the popular-vote PotUS. He lost the popular-vote and won the presidency in the EC. That is by means of a manipulation of the popular-vote (winner-takes-all and loser votes are not counted), which is patently unfair and should be done away with.

    Two hundred years with FIVE ERRONEOUS POTUS "VICTORIES" and no other developed country on earth elects the Head of state in such a manner ... !
     
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    Only 5 out of more than 40 doesn't seem that many. Plus in at least two of those 5 it is quite possible that the "loser" of the popular vote actually won it anyway.
     
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    Yup. Typically those who work to become dictators are insecure bullies. TRUMP, ARE YOU LISTENING?
     
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    LafayetteBis Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You're making an excuse for a system that is fundamentally unfair and therefore WRONG.

    The voting-process of the Electoral College is an unacceptable MANIPULATION OF THE POPULAR-VOTE. It must change.

    Change, that is, in the way the popular-vote for the PotUS is counted, and the aggregate results simply reported to Congress.Which then acknowledges/accepts the total popular-vote and declares the winner nationally.

    Apparently that's too damn simple for some to understand - but that is how the other developed countries do it ...
     
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    You should know there is more to democracy than simply "one man, one vote".
     
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    If this were a, as you say 'meritworthy democracy' and a simple majority could undermine constitutional values, regions would secede before they would cede certain of their valued rights to a majority opinion. The union would dissolve (which isn't necessarily a bad thing imo). There are many folks here who value their individual rights far more than they value popular opinion. Enough to threaten the unity of your 'meritworthy democracy.'
     
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    . What difference does it make what nation someone is from.. That does not change the fact that you are in denial. And who cares what you want ? Seriously. Your in a debate forum - why come here if you have no coherent or valid arguments and/or if you don't want to debate ?
     
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    Do you think that Ivanka has the same Social Darwinist perspective as carrot top ?
     
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    He creates an emergency and then declares martial law.

    At that point the Constitution is pretty much void. It will take a military action to remove him. And he can prevent any moves against him because we're under martial law.

    This isn't even hard to figure out. Trump is the most dangerous person in the world and the greatest threat the nation has ever seen.

    This is just another reason why the office of president has to be eliminated.
     
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    There is no provision by which a president can declare martial law and void elections. The U.S. didn't even do that during the Civil War. It couldn't even be done during a nuclear war.

    U.S. presidential powers domestically simply do not extend that far.

    Besides which what gives you the idea that any of the U.S. military or law enforcement authorities in the U.S. would follow President Trump in doing something so obviously and patently illegal?
     
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    THE POLITICAL MACHINATIONS OF BIG-MONEY

    Specious argumentation.

    We've got a number of serious errors in our "system of republican democracy" devised in an age when that idea was just a notion in the heads of a handful of Americans who wanted to detach the colonies from an English kingdom. It was the first-effort of any kind to do that in a world where the oppression of royal kingdoms were common.

    The base notions of both a republic and a democracy were purely intellectual at the end of the 18th century. And the notion of changing the political system was being hotly debated in only two geographies on earth. France and the English colonies*.

    Our manner of electing a PotUS is FUNDAMENTALLY UNFAIR because of a political mistake made at the very beginning of our democracy in devising the Electoral College. Never ever should that institution be based upon a "winner-take-all" voting rule, which clearly is fundamentally unfair, unjust, undemocratic and therefore unacceptable.

    We should fix those errors devised in a nascent democracy two centuries ago. Namely (1) the voting manipulations of the Electoral College and (2) Gerrymandering by which state authorities "carve out" voting districts to suit whichever of the two dominant parties.

    And until those matters are attended to, our democracy is and remains a bad-joke of a voting system where we, the sheeple, allow BigMoney to manipulate it for their own nefariously selfish purposes ...
     
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    Spurious argumentation. There is no well-founded reason to assume that will happen. Though, clearly, today's problem with our democracy was due to the machinations of the south to preserve their feudal system of slavery - which, by the way, at the end of the 18th century was being banned in numerous European kingdoms!

    You will note in this World Map below the timeline of banning slavery in various countries around the world. Note the color schemes applied and that the southern portion of the US was amongst the last historically to do so:
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    Indeed you are quite right. But people like you refuse to admit that the most pertinent economically of rights depends upon those of the nation and not of any individual state.

    Which makes one wonder what we-as-a-nation are learning in Civics Classes throughout America. If anything at all - see here. (Note particularly in the chart there the number of states that require Civics courses to graduate, which is not the least bit adequate.)

    Go ahead, Dissolve the Union. Then watch your state economy nosedive as importation barriers are established. It would be the economic death-knell of the US ...
     
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    The rights that the nation doesnt protect are not very 'pertinent'. Thats why those seeking to protect certain rights would split and form their own nation...

    Why would there be 'importation barriers'? Barring who exactly, and from importing what?
     
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    Did Kushner's dad go to prison?
     
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    Don't know but she's intelligent, beautiful, charismatic and untouched by the various Trump scandals.
     
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    Gee whiz Randy Weaver, better keep an eye out for the black helicopters.
     
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    If the BLOTUS declares martial law the military will arrest him and try him for treason and hand back the government to We the People which is what they swore an oath to uphold.
     
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