What’s Happened to the GOP?

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  1. Pycckia

    Pycckia Well-Known Member

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    You think you can work with White Supremacists as equals?
     
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    Me too. I share your pain.
     
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    XploreR Well-Known Member

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    No. I'm hopeful voters will reject them as candidates, but if elected, I suspect compromise solutions with them would be few & far between.
     
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    Many Trump supporters today would consider that position "a step in the right direction, but a bit wishy-washy"
     
  5. Pycckia

    Pycckia Well-Known Member

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    OK, so you are not going to work with all Americans as you said earlier.
     
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    XploreR Well-Known Member

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    I never said I'd be unwilling. I said I have serious doubts they'd be open to compromise in governance, which is absolutely necessary in any successful government.
     
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    I disagree. I watched events in the House and Senate today.

    Trump made the racially charged statement, "Why don’t they go back." The next day, Trump made two unwarranted assumptions beginning with the ubiquitous "if." "If you are not happy, if you are complaining all the time." Then he told the Congresswomen, "you can leave."

    Nearly every Republican in Congress is lining up to agree with Trump, essentially telling the four black representatives to go back where they came from and they can leave.

    As a Republican, I am totally embarrassed by my party. I can only maintain my sanity by telling myself this is only happening in Congress. There is little doubt my mind that educated Republicans everywhere disagree with Trump's racist and xenophobic remarks. Americans are not racist.

    Because they are afraid of Trump, Republicans in Congress do not realize it, but Trump is systematically destroying the GOP.
     
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    Trump is doing more than systematically destroying the GOP. Trump is systematically destroying all our major institutions of government. Conservative haters of government generally are delighted with Trump. But not the rest of us who think the U.S. was & could still be, the hope of the world, or an example of that hope. But recovery won't happen under Trump, & if he stays in power much longer, the destruction may be too deep for us to recover after he's gone.
     
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    The House of Representatives passed a resolution condemning Trump for his "racist comments" concerning four Democratic black congresswomen. The resolution passed largely along party lines — 235 Democrats joined by only four Republicans who supported the measure.

    The only way to defend Trump is to deny reality and insist that black is white, night is day, and racist remarks are not racist remarks. Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell and House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy provide apt examples.

    Several members of Congress have called Trump's remarks racist.

    McConnell dismissed those accusations, saying Trump "is not a racist." Then he tried to change the subject. “I think the tone of all of this is not good for the country but it’s coming from all different ideological points of view. To single out any segment of this I think is a mistake,” he added.

    McCarthy (R-Calif.) insisted that Trump's tweets telling four minority congresswomen to "go back" to where they came from were not racist. When asked whether Trump's weekend tweets were racist, he, too, tried to change the subject. "No, this is about ideology."

    I see. So, according to the GOP leadership, telling a black person to go back where they came from is expressing "different ideological points of view" and has something to do with "ideology."

    I wonder if these two Republican leaders know how stupid they sound.

    The GOP is being led down a dark path.
     
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    Acting as a Russian agent, Trump is doing an effective job at making a mockery of the executive branch of our government, attacking the other two branches of our government, causing division within Congress, and dividing the American people.

    Where are Trump's supporters?

    Have they finally given up backing a complete fool who may be losing his mind?

    Nope, they are busy coming up with cartoons, photos, and wisecracks.
     
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    Give it a rest. There is very little difference between the parties other than the sound bites. Both whore for wall street and the defense contractors
     
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    Just stop.
    Campaign fodder at best
     
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    “We all know that AOC and this crowd are a bunch of Communists. They hate Israel. They hate our own country. They’re calling the guards along our border, the Border Patrol agents, concentration camp guards. They accuse people who support Israel of doing it for the Benjamins. They’re anti-Semitic. They’re anti-American. Don’t get them. Aim higher. We don’t need to know anything about them, personally. Talk about their policy.”

    Was this said by the grand poobah of the ku klux klan? Nope, those words were spoken by a United States Senator on Fox and Friends. His name, Senator Lindsey Graham of South Carolina, a Republican.
     
  14. Pycckia

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    They just compromised on additional funding for ICE.
     
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    That is all you have to say? You would like that, wouldn't you? Trump supporters are in denial because there is nothing they can say. They backed the wrong horse, and that is slowly dawning on them.
     
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    Righties sure do love to throw that "antisemite" around and done so much so, it lacks all meanings. Tell me why I have to love Israel. They aren't any more special than our other allies.
     
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    Fox News was simply a counter to the far left bias of outlets like CNN, and eventually MSNBC as well. In fact, it was the radicalized bias of left-wing media that created the need for Fox News. Even Ted Turner understood the need for Fox News, as a counter to what his own network was putting out.

    So if you don't like Fox News, blame it on the trash you now listen to.
     
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    They went full Pat Buchanan. You never go full Pat Buchanan.
     
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    You are everything today's Republican is not. Hysteria/ confusion/ impulsivity/ envy/ insecurity/ ignorance/ bigotry unfortunately characterize Trump supporters as far as I can make out. One can merely step foot on the campus of any university with a MAGA cap to see what people think of Republicans.
     
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    My, my isn’t that the pot calling the kettle black. Lefties are the angriest fear mongers around. There is not a Republican anywhere that can hold a candle to them.
     
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    In a nutshell.
    Any one not white, became the enemy.
    Any one that was for more equality for ALL, became the enemy.
    Any one NOT a Christian, became an enemy.
    They became the party of HATE.
     
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    If one looks behind the curtain, and it effects the elitists in DC, the 2 parties are lock stock and barrel together.
    I remember way back when they all decided to automatically give themselves pay raises every year, so they didn't have to vote on a raise and make an election issue out of it.
    They, the 2 parties, are all about themselves. And then play good cop/bad cop to keep the sheeple pointing fingers. They switch roles periodically.
    Notice how ACA is not going to be repealed and replaced? Obama put in a R plan and the R's secretly wanted it.
     
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    "Any one NOT a [Republican] Christian, became an enemy".

    Pope Francis says quite clearly that Trump is not Christian, therefore Republican Christianity becomes very suspect.
     
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    And tRUMP criticizes faux. His daytime activity is to watch faux and issue tweets.
    2 sides to that coin.
     
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    Oh so terrible. To pick up the cross for the demeaned and those thought of as 2nd or 3rd class citizens.
    To make everyone have equal opportunities. Oh so f'n terrible to embrace minorities and LGBTQs. Jesus looked out for those not deemed worthy of the elites.

    I do agree, they left the working class. And that was a huge mistake.
    I notice you did need to throw out a color. Proving the R party is about skin color. IE race.
     

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