Reality check: Trump tweets

Black Repbulicans WAKE THE **** UP! There is no defense, excuse or "explanation" for Trumps bigoted Tweets . Either defect to the Democratic Party , become Independents , or just get the hell out of public service. America does NOT need a new breed of overseers.

 

Nah.

 

Thanks for telling black people what YOU think THEY should do.
Since we are speaking for them in this thread my advice is DON'T REJOIN THE DEMOCRAT PLANTATION

 

Wow. That's racist.

 

I think that virtually everyone is racist. A white person is more comfortable in a group of white people, and a black person is more comfortable in a group of black people. A good person tries to do and say the right thing in spite of their racism. A less good/bad person will act out their racism either occasionally, frequently or constantly. We all have racist tendencies. Some of us try to rise above our racism and do the right thing. Some of us are totally oblivious of our racism and believe that our statements and actions are appropriate and justified.

EVERYONE IS RACIST TO SOME EXTENT. Some say and do the right thing. Some do not.

 

That's not racism.

 

Maybe you would prefer "prejudice". Everyone is prejudiced. Good people try to say and do the right thing in spite of their "prejudice". So, "racists" say and do things because of their prejudice, either consciously or unconsciously.

 

Yes, everyone is prejudiced - about everything.

 

Untrue, tweets were racist Ms Omars have been though.

 

You are telling people to "just get the hell out of public service"? A rather racist comment don't you think?

 

Read it again, jestsayin, please: that is not a racist comment.

 

No that's not true..

The problem? There are no bettet alternatives.

 

It is if it's true and you don't admit it.

 

My old man is in his late 70's, he has racial opinions, lived in south side of chicago in the 50's, he formed some ugly opinions but he's rarely if ever in a situation whee his racial tendencies can be acted upon. But he honestly does view blacks and whites into 4 categories.
Blacks, Black Trash
Whites, White Trash

I don't have a problem with that attitude, I do have a problem if he's only allowed to call out the white trash for being trash but he's a racist if he calls out black trash, cant he just be judgmental of both?

I've generally defined racism as real world stuff, like not hiring someone for their race but that's pretty obvious...eh?

so assuming you don't work in HR, about the only real world examples in many peoples lives might be a simple decision to help someone on the side of the road with a flat tire, we all are pretty willing to help out the old lady right?

But what about a male of the opposite race?
Do whites tend to stop & help whites more frequently?
Do Blacks tend to stop & help blacks more frequently?

Is only one group racist if they have that tendency?

 

That's fine, but the actual definition is somewhat more particular, with necessary components - Prejudice based on racial superiority.

Given the definition of racism, its hard to say.

 

It's racist if I say it is racist. See, two can play this game.

 

As another poster mentioned, in-group preference is not actually racism. It is tribalism for sure, but it is not racism. And even within the groups you list, there are sub groups as people feel more comfortable around people that are more genetically similar to themselves. So the white people may be divided into Irish, Jewish, and Italian neighborhoods for example. African immigrants do not typically live in American black neighborhoods, they form their own enclave. I don't really see how you are making a moral connection here, because there is nothing inherently moral or amoral about interacting with people of other genetic groups. Could you explain this thought please?
Also, how do you know that rising above what you see as racism, is the right thing? Who is the moral authority or what is the moral imperative?

 

if that's the strict definition, then saying "go home" doesn't mean crap but that's been discussed to death, I'd rather be practical.
What about a black or white:
giving a smaller tip for a black/white waitress
selecting a white/black doctor out of preference
stopping to assist only one of the same race
keeping a closer eye on POC if you are a security guard
hiring a black/white service person out of preference.

Stuff that actually happens every day on both sides.

 

Given the definition of racism, its hard to say.

 

ok, I tried to have a dialogue, my bad, i'll move on.

 

I just wanted to comment on this:
Blacks, Black Trash
Whites, White Trash

This is pretty common in areas with large numbers of black people and white people living in proximity. I grew up in a mostly black town in the south, and this was widely known. I think most white people are blind to the fact that there are black "rednecks" so to speak. Middle and upper class black people cringe at that as much as the middle and upper class white people cringe at their rednecks. I think people that are oblivious to this usually only see the black trash on TV or whatever and think that is what black people are. If you are against the black trash, you must hate all black people since they presume that is what all black people must be like.

 

???
I can't help it if the question you asked cannot be answered with the information you gave.
???

 

I have added numbers to the quote to make it easier to respond.
1. What about giving a different tip to an attractive vs unattractive person? Does that factor in? I definitely give bigger tips to pretty women. Sexist or no, it made my meal better.
2. I can make a non racist case for choosing a white doc over a black one. Look up the test scores black students can make it into and through med school with, and then compare those to any other race. They are being pushed through because they are black and will look good on the brochure photo. If you were smart, you would only see Indian or Chinese doctors, since they need the highest scores to make it. You KNOW they earned it, with the black guy you can never be sure. He might be great, or he might be that C student that got into med school for diversity's sake. You don't know. Just based on that, it would seem more rational to choose a Chinese doctor.
3. If all other factors are equal, and race is the only differentiation, I would agree with this one.
4. This would depend on your experience and the local crime rates though in some sense. You can say that profiling is wrong, but it is ridiculous to pretend not to notice if 90% of your theft has been from one race or ethnic group. If you worked in one of those Korean stores in the ghetto, and the only time you lose merchandise is after high school age black males come in, you will likely watch them more. If you don't, you are a **** security guard.
5. I don't think preference is inherently racist. I guess it would depend on the context. I want the Asian lady because she is smoking hot, is different than I want the Asian lady because black people will stab you. I guess we would need more information for this one. Is the preference for or against?

 

Nope, not at all. The fact of the matter is not affected by personal opinion in the slightest.

 

Sure, I watch the local news, the mug shots are generally either sketchy black peeps or sketchy whites, < trash its not like anyone except the most flaming racist would have difficulty separating say Obama, well spoken harvard grad that was POTUS vs the 3 teens that were caught during an armed robbery. IMO those types that can't differentiate are pretty dam rare these days. <not to much 60 years ago.

side story, but its related:
The most flaming racist I know is a Jamaican woman who was married to my best friend at the time, jet black, used the N word in a derogatory fashion almost daily, to the point where I've asked her to please stop with the chit and i'm Irish White. I remember driving through a getto section and she was all over it, look at those N's, fkn N's everywhere, lets get the hell out of this fkn N neighborhood. Thank god my buddy divorced her, she was awful. Made David Duke look like Mother Theresa.

The most flaming xenophobe I know is my neighbor from central america, barely speaks english but he's a legal immigrant and has 3 jobs, he friggen hates illegals and is very vocal about it, had massive 4 foot Trump/Pence Magnets on his van and i'm sure he'll put them back up in 2020. He won't hesitate to ask a latino if they are legal and kick them off his lawn if they are, crap I would never dream of doing.

So the biggest racist I know is black, and the most xenophobic is latino, weird world eh?