Reality check: Trump tweets

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  1. kungfuliberal

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    Actually, you are either being stubborn or deaf or willfully ignorant. READ CAREFULLY AND COMPREHENSIVELY, LISTEN CAREFULLY:

    https://www.politico.com/story/2019/07/14/trump-congress-go-back-where-they-came-from-1415692
     
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    Sorry, you are factually incorrect. You have to do mental gymnastics to make his comments about race.
    Somalia is a craphole with a non to barely functioning government.
    That is in no way a racist comment it's a matter of simply verified truth.

    For someone from Somalia to complain about how America is run is the height of stupidity and such a person should be put i. Their place by the truth and that is what Trump did.
    Uncouth? Yup. Not nice? Yup

    Racist? Nope. And you literally have to be stupid i mean really. If you believe his comments are racist. Then your dumber than a box of rocks.
    Not saying yhis to be mean i am just saying what true.

    Politico is lying.
     
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    I like how you spelled "Republican" wrong.

    And are you going full Orwellian/Totalitarian, telling people what to do? Blacks aren't your convenient pets for only to be thrown out the moment they don't agree with you.

    Racism in full display, people.
     
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    Folks, all one has to do is just watch the video to see Trump clarify EXACTLY who he is talking about. "One of them who kept Amazon out of New York..." Now if you don't read or listen to or watch national news, you haven't a clue as to whom he's referring to. But if you do, then you know he is talking about AOC.

    That's 2 of the Progressive Democratic Congresswomen he's referring to...all non-white. Only the willfully ignorant and insipidly stubborn apologist/sycophants for the Orange Oaf will do "mental gymnastics" to pretend otherwise.

    3 were born & raised here. 1 immigrated when she was 15 years old, and has become a naturalized citizen since. Funny how Trump and his minions didn't apply all this crap to the Caucasian European immigrants of similar stature to Rep. Omar who wailed against President Obama, questioning his patriotism, citizenry, etc. You NEVER heard a Dem, Progressive, or Liberal stoop to such bigoted dreck.

    If posters like Mr. Allen were to think it through ( a novel concept to him, I'm sure), maybe he would realize that Rep. Omar is seeking to curtail any mindset of gaining ground in America that was present in the country her family left. But hey, if Mr. Allen is comfortable with his fearless leader attempting 3rd rate propaganda that you saw in Nazi Germany, or Communist Russia, China, Cuba or in any fascist dictatorship in South America or Pacific Asia, then any attempt at rational, logical, critical analysis and accurate historical references is wasted.
     
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    I smell desperation. Evidently the left, obsessed with race, do not want black people to think for themselves.
     
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    Typical cop-out by the intellectually dishonest and impotent right wing wonk.....when they can't logically or factually disprove or refute information contained within a source, they just dismiss the source out of hand. That way, the reader doesn't see their folly.

    WTFU, Bobby....that ploy is a joke, much like the Orange Oaf in office.
     
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    A spelling error....thanks for pointing it out. Life goes on.
    Spare us all the reverse accusation ploy....it's not working for the Orange Oaf and it sure as hell is not going to work for you. Ask Steele, or Rice or Powell who was the "pet" that was tossed aside the nano-second they outlived their PR usefulness. Or maybe the Orange Oaf can point out some of "his blacks" for you to talk to. GMAFB, man!

    Let me dumb it down for you....as a black man in America, knowledgeable of it's history regarding us, it boggles the mind that any self respecting black person with common sense would try to excuse the racist rhetoric that has spewed from the Orange Oaf's mouth in his private life and in the last 2 years. To do so and support such a person is to do so against one's best interest....or rather the best interests of their non-white constituents. My OP stands, as it is my opinion, to which I am entitled to just like you. But unlike you, I'm not some right wing parrot pulling lame ploys a'la Roy Cohn or David Duke. Sorry, but that dog of yours just won't fly.
     
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    - Cite the text of Trump's supposedly racist tweets/statements
    - Demonstrate how those tweets/statements meet the definition of racism, as per:
    https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/racism
    https://www.dictionary.com/browse/racism
    https://www.lexico.com/en/definition/racism
     
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    News flash for you, mate. 95% of blacks voted for Obama in 2008. 88% voted for Hillary in 2016. That's a 7% increase of blacks not wanting to do with this garbage the Left are throwing at them. Dare we see how many vote for Trump come 2020? I will tell you, it's going to be higher than a mere 12% next year.

    Blacks are sick and tired of being used as nothing more than a shield or sword depending on what is needed. Blacks are nothing more than a convenient tool for the Left. "Look how diverse we are!".

    Blacks are sick and tired of being used as pawns in your crappy little identity politics game.
     
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    Yes he was talking about those 4 idiots. Who he was talking about was never in question. What he saying to them was not racist.

    It's very simple and true. Puerto Rico and Somalia are crapholes that are poorly governed. Trumps suggesting to them that they are clueless about how to run America and that they should go elsewhere to prove they can govern before telling him how to do his job..

    None of it was racist, none of it was race related. None of it had the slightest bit of anything to do with anyones race.

    Suggesting this was racially motivated is a lie.
     
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    For your information: the 2016 vote was a 20 year record low in voter turnout....so by your "logic" the PEOPLE (all Americans) were sick and tired of the garbage BOTH parties were throwing at them. Those that did vote had to face serious suppression tactics in some red states (i.e., Gerrymanderding) by the GOP. If you're not up to it, I can provide documentation from valid sources to support what I stated here.

    So given your myopic view of recent American history, you're hardly one to blather on about what black folk think or their relationship to political parties. And I note that you don't DARE address the examples I previously gave regarding the GOP usage of black appointees and elected officials. Not surprising. Carry on.
     
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    Ahh, so by your convoluted "logic", you first deny to whom Trump was referring to, then faced with irrefutable evidence you then say, "well, it STILL wasn't about race".

    GMAFB, Bobby...your insipid stubbornness defies logic and rationality. Also, your prejudice becomes more blatant with each post. Case in point, Puerto Rico STILL is a vacation spot for those who can afford it, despite the recovery from the hurricane Maria's devastation. Prior to that, NO ONE but the ignorant would categorize it as a "crap hole". And in case you STILL want to play dumb as to Trump's "back to where you came from" reference, here's a little domestic education for you:

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/eeoc-go-back-where-you-came-from-discrimination-federal-law-trump-tweets/


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Go_back_where_you_came_from


    And the topper is your inability to acknowledge the searing gaff by your feckless leader that the 3 of the women he referred to were BORN IN THE USA, while one immigrated here at age 17 and has become a NATURALIZED CITIZEN THE LEGAL WAY.

    Mind you, if someone lobbed the same dreck at his two foreign born/accented wives, would you deny ethnic/racial discrimination as the motive?

    The only lie here, Bobby, is the one you tell yourself and try to sell to others.
     
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    Stop and think....the OP is not about just being around someone of the opposite race/creed/color than you, it's about supporting a political party that has demonstrated a time honored bias against a specific group of people via support of a leader who has in his private and public life used racism and/or bigotry in words and deeds. Suspension of disbelief is necessary to support someone who is against your best interests.
     
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    Are what? Precisely what is NOT in the best interest of their constituents …. much less the American public in general?
     
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    Stop and think....the OP is not about just being around someone of the opposite race/creed/color than you, it's about supporting a political party that has demonstrated a time honored bias against a specific group of people via support of a leader who has in his private and public life used racism and/or bigotry in words and deeds. Suspension of disbelief is necessary to support someone who is against your best interests.
     
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    1. I never denied who he was talking about. So your fabricating things about me.

    2. You are also fabricated things about Trump that are not true.

    As i have stated multiple times. His tweets have nothing to do with race. They have everything to do with the inability of those 4 women to lead. It has nothing to do with where they are from, their skin pigmentation or their gender.

    He may very well be a bigot but thats not what is displayed in his tweets to them.
    He was calling into question their ability to lead and that is all which they did to him first.

    A bigot would have said " go home you don't beking here"
    He didn't say that he said and ill paraphrase.
    You want to tell me how to lead this country?
    Why don't you go home and ckean up the messes in your homes then come back and lecture me how to lead.
    He said this because Somalia is a legitimate hell hole of a country and Puerto Rico though much better has got a lot of work to do.
    None of this has anything to do with race.
    You are putting 2 and 2 together and coming up with 10.
     
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    All the reader has to do is to just click back to posts #51, #56, #61 and #63 to see how insipidly stubborn and intellectually dishonest Bobbie is being here. That's the thing with apologists for Trump...they deny the reality that the more blatant bigotry spews from the mouth of their orange pated leader, the more people with rational, logical minds who are aware of American history will walk away from the Trump trolley....and the attempts to justify Trump's bigoted drivel become more irrational and absurd, as Bobbie demonstrates for us here. I have no delusions that Bobbie will ever admit he's wrong...I just expose his folly for all to see and then watch him fume and blusters before ignoring him all together.
     
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