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U.S. Life Expectancy Falls Further

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by MolonLabe2009, Jul 23, 2019.

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  1. MolonLabe2009

    MolonLabe2009 Banned

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    ObamaCare has been implemented since 2014 pushing millions more on Medicaid and allowing millions of poor people subsidized healthcare yet the life expectancy in the United States has fallen once again.

    Left-wingers always use the life expectancy statistic of other countries to push for national healthcare here in the United States.

    This just shows that using the life expectancy statistic is bogus because there are so many other factors that influence life expectancy that no amount of available free/subsidized health care can fix.
     
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    Obamacare at best only ever had 10% of Americans enrolled in it's PRIVATE HEALTH PROVIDER HEALTHCARE!!!!Obamacare is from health insurance companies.
     
    61falcon, Jul 23, 2019
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    Mostly due to suicides and opioid addiction.
     
    Diablo, Jul 23, 2019
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    61falcon Well-Known Member

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    The third leading cause of death in America right after heart failure and cancer is MEDICAL MISTAKES BY DOCTORS NURSES AND HOSPITALS!!!!!
     
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    it appears good paying jobs are better health care than health care
     
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    MolonLabe2009 Banned

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    ObamaCare didn't increase the life expectancy. In fact, it decreased it.

    So, life expectancy has nothing to do with the available free/subsidized health care.
     
    MolonLabe2009, Jul 23, 2019
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    HockeyDad Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    and fatties who do nothing but eat junk food and vegetate in front of a monitor
     
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    Like TRUMP?

    Good point.:salute:
     
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    Can you cite a source that proves the ACA program decreased life expectancy and the reasons it did so?

    Thanks in advance
     
    cd8ed, Jul 23, 2019
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    So, let’s keep treating them as the slaves they are, instead of paying them the value they’re worth, free market value.
     
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    Trump's killing us. :)

    Data the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention released on Thursday show life expectancy fell by one-tenth of a year, to 78.6 years, pushed down by the sharpest annual increase in suicides in nearly a decade and a continued rise in deaths from powerful opioid drugs like fentanyl.
     
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    and the repubs killed it thus decreasing the age...
     
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    At this rate they will be making min. wage...
     
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    Mostly because it was after they realized what their Obama Care premiums would be. ;-)
     
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    And those stats showed a trend long before Trump came into office, Obama is the primary cause with his hopeless and changed for the worse.
     
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    Now that you’ve repeated that baseless claim, prove it.

    It’s very obvious that you did not read the article that you linked to.

    Why you right wingers keep doing this. It’s a sure way to make a fool of oneself.
     
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    It does take a real mental giant to believe you will live longer if you never see a doctor.
     
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    How do you explain that almost all the inhabitants of Western nations benefiting from universal health care programs have a longer life expectancy than the US?

    UK, France, Spain, Canada, Norway, Germany .....
     
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    I think health care is part of it but the bigger correlation is probably diet, obesity and physical fitness. I originally thought income had a lot to do with it too but then noticed that Puerto Rico is #2 on the list. California has tons of fitness fanatics and kale so the are at #3. New York and Connecticut 4 & 6 have fairly high income. Massachusetts has their MassHealth. The states that are have the lower life expectancy are your Southern states with lower income and probably higher obesity rates. It is also interesting to look at life expectancy by race. Latinos and Asian score very well and for the most part probably have a lower percentage of obesity and diabetes.

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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territories_by_life_expectancy
     
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    Surely the OP realizes that Obamacare doesn't even resemble real National Health Care in those Countries where life expectancy is much higher than ours, right?

    LOL, I'm dreaming to believe a Trumpublican would know this.
     
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    MolonLabe2009 Banned

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    Because each society has different side effects; alcoholism, smokers, obesity, drug usage, etc.
     
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    Ha ha Liberal Mecca’s killing it
     
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    MolonLabe2009 Banned

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    Republicans didn't kill ObamaCare.

    99% of ObamaCare is still intact. The only piece of ObamaCare that was repealed was the individual mandate.

    Educate yourself before you spout off.
     
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    MolonLabe2009 Banned

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    Oh, so life expectancy has nothing to do with the availability of healthcare? Good to know.
     
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    Don't you understand that universal coverage can solve a lot of these problems?
     
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