U.S. Life Expectancy Falls Further

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  1. ronv

    ronv Well-Known Member

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    When you can't afford a house, you rent.
    When you can't afford a car you walk.
    When you can't afford healthcare you die.
    That's the point.
     
  2. MolonLabe2009

    MolonLabe2009 Banned

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    And if one can't afford rent?
    What if you can't walk?
    This is not true.
     
  3. TomFitz

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    It happens to be fact.
     
  4. ronv

    ronv Well-Known Member

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    You live on the street


    You probably need a doctor. :)


    You get a faith healer?
    Wait. Are they covered.
     
  5. dairyair

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    Health insurance isn't very useful without a phone or transportation to get to a provider.
    You make silly assumptions that everyone without insurance does so, at the expense of having all those amenities. But offer no proof.
    Health insurance is more than mortgages at this point in many areas.
     
  6. dairyair

    dairyair Well-Known Member

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    Seem pretty silly with UE at 3.5% or so.
     
  7. dairyair

    dairyair Well-Known Member

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    So what's your plan to get SS recipients, and school kids to pay? How will kindergartners pay and still learn the ABCs? You know, the 1/2 of the population retired or in school.
     
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    Irony.

    Anyhoo, you don't need a smart phone to contact a provider.
     
  9. Durandal

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    Trump's "great healthcare" doesn't seem to be doing the trick. Anyone surprised?
     
  10. dairyair

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    Anyhoo.



    One needs a way to call? And so far, only you say it has to be a smart phone.
    I asked for proof, and you gave nothing.
     
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  11. dairyair

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    What 'great healthcare'? Making premiums more expensive?
     
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    [​IMG]

    :roflol::roflol:
     
  13. KJohnson

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    Sure, for about a week until the entire world invades our southern border since the democrats want to cover all of them as well which anyone with a 5th grade math education knows will completely bankrupt the country.
     
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  14. dairyair

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    Average premiums for employer-sponsored family health premiums reached $19,616 in 2018 — up 5 percent from the year before —
    https://www.thebalance.com/what-is-the-average-health-insurance-premium-4586358

    BY JUSTIN PRITCHARD

    Updated March 12, 2019
    The median monthly mortgage payment for U.S. homeowners is $1,030 according to the latest American Housing Survey from the U.S. Census Bureau.
    https://www.thebalance.com/average-monthly-mortgage-payment-4154282
     
  15. tharock220

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    Not what you're link says, but I respect that you understood the point.

    https://obamawhitehouse.archives.go...ns-are-connected-high-speed-wireless-internet

    98 percent of Americans nationwide are now connected to high-speed wireless Internet, surpassing any point in history.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2018/01/16/ame...rance-up-more-than-3-million-under-trump.html

    A total of 12.2 percent of all adults now lack health insurance, an increase of 1.3 percentage points since the last quarter of 2016, according to the Gallup-Sharecare Well-Being Index.
     
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    yep, too many employers not paying their employees a living wage

    some like Trump even hire illegals...
     
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    yep, soon no one will be able to afford private care, we gave the corps another chance by not having a public option, they are failing us

    at least it's not raising 15% a year, but even 5% a year is still not a trend Americans can support

    "Wal-Mart Memo Suggests Ways to Cut Employee Benefit Costs " 2005

    http://www.nytimes.com/2005/10/26/business/26walmart.ready.html?pagewanted=all

    "Wal-Mart executives said the memo was part of an effort to rein in benefit costs, which to Wall Street's dismay have soared by 15 percent a year on average since 2002. Like much of corporate America, Wal-Mart has been squeezed by soaring health costs. The proposed plan, if approved, would save the company more than $1 billion a year by 2011."

    "Ms. Chambers acknowledged that 46 percent of the children of Wal-Mart's 1.33 million United States employees were uninsured or on Medicaid."

    an interesting Article, Walmart claims Healthcare raising by 15% a year back in 2005 under complete republican control...
     
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  18. dairyair

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    For profit insurance companies can't sustain the population. That is obvious.
     
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    Been saying that and doing it for years but they still put up that statistic. Like infant mortality.
     
  20. FreshAir

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    not one that eats the government dietary recommendations for sure, though they are starting to change those, so there is hope

    the size of the population a insurer covers is usually a plus... but in this era it is not
     
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    False. Health care is free. Just take care of your health. What you call "Healthcare" is the opposite. Pharm products mask symptoms so that the underlying condition can worsen. Americans are sicker than ever in spite of record profits for pharm companies. Those living into their 90s did not grow up consuming pharm products.
     
  22. KAMALAYKA

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    The Democrats were trying to appeal across the aisle. Obamacare is a bad system to the extent that it tries to appease the GOP ideology.
     
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    True, I try to avoid them.
     
  24. MolonLabe2009

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    ObamaCare was passed without one single Republican vote.

    Stop blaming the 2000 page unread unconstitutional unwanted big pile of crap ObamaCare on Republicans.

    It was all the Democrats fault.
     

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