Reparations for Slavery.

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  1. Ritter

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    No Congress is ever going to pass such a bill and no President would ever sign it. More than 99,99% of the White population would object and there would be nothing for Blacks to gain from such a policy.

    I think it is time to stop victimising Blacks!
     
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    1. The first legal slave owner in American history was a black tobacco farmer named Anthony Johnson.
    2. In 1830 there were 3,775 free black people who owned 12,740 black slaves.
    3. Brutal black-on-black slavery was common in Africa for thousands of years.
    4. Most slaves brought to America from Africa were purchased from black slave owners.
    5. White people ended legal chattel slavery.

    These are FACTS
     
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    This has been a very educational and inspiring thread. My sincere thanks to all who have participated; even to those of you whose intent was to mock or disagree with me. It's OK. I have a thick skin---most of the time.
    I won't be coming back to this thread until there is further news concerning the reparations debate among the Presidential candidates.
    See ya later! Take care.
     
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    Bye bye, booboo. :blowkiss:
     
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    You may have the IDEA, but you have no way of implementing it. No one can do it. It's far far too late to determine who is black and who isn't. You should have done it out 100 years ago.
     
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    No force on earth can stop the idea percolating through hopeful minds, sure. But an idea impossible to implement can only percolate.
     
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    That's one question. The other .. more pressing issue is WHO WILL GET IT?

    In 2019 (and even less so with each passing year), there is no means of establishing blackness. Just about every white person has trace African DNA. Will the line be drawn at DNA percentage? Or will it be drawn at skin tone? Both are DEEPLY problematic, and will fail spectacularly - and there is nothing else. Self identity is complete joke, especially when money is involved.
     
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    And since not all Whites owned slaves, it would be immoral to force all Whites to pay reparations for slavery. Since not all Southern Whites owned slaves, it would be immoral to make all Southerners pay reparations for slavery. Since many Whites are of groups that came long after slavery was abolished, it would be immoral to make them pay reparations for it.

    Who pays? How does (s)he pay? Who receives? How does (s)he receive? How much is paid? For how long is it to be paid? Too many questions.
     
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    The second Democrat candidate's debate is tonight. (July 30, 2019) I hope they ask a question about reparations.
     
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    Those details will be worked out AFTER the reparations bill is signed into law. :flagus:
     
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    The map should be drawn after the terrain and not the other way around.
     
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    Me too!
     
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    If only AOC was a candidate. It would be great to see her economic mastermind at work. :D

    Anyways, the only reparations the Dems should be interested in discussing are those of repairing their dysfunctional party.
     
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    Patience, she'll be a candidate one day.
     
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    Happy not to be an American. :)
     
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    Don't approve of Jewish reparations either.
     
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    The true wealth was in the North. The banks couldn't have been slavers as the slave trade with Africa was banned in 1807. Read history. It is your friend.
     
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    Are you making this up? Or does this come from some bill? Do you know how poorly records were kept 160 years ago about people who were property? Next, why shoud it matter whether they identified as Black or not?
     
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    Marianne Williamson gave a very eloquent statement in support of reparations at the Democrat debate on July 30, 2019.
    Four other Democrat Presidential candidates support slavery reparations also. They are:
    1) Julian Castro
    2) Elizabeth Warren
    3) Corey Booker
    4) Kamala Harris
    I didn't hear the above four candidates mention reparations during these last debates, but I know they do support the idea.
    There are many African-Americans who are paying close attention to the candidate's stand on reparations. They vow to only vote for those who promise to work for reparations.
     
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    The Democrat Long-Knives are out for the lovely gracious and very intelligent Marianne. She may be for reparations, but they want the professional Left wants her head

    DEMOCRATIC HATE FOR MARIANNE WILLIAMSON: The self-help guru’s supposedly empowering rhetoric masks a mean-spirited individualism that would lead to harmful policies if she were somehow elected these left-wing-nuts claim.

    Blue-on-blue triggering internecine violence
     
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    idont care if you support the sultan of brunei either, the point is that a precedent has been set and failure to pay the debt proves that white governments are institutionally racist
     
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    read your history, is your friend. the banks of the north were built entirely off slave profits. does that make you proud of america still?
     
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    its simple. the applicants need to provide documents and the corporations involved in slavery in america (which is literally EVERY business during the era) need investigating. your circular arguments are not helping your understanding of this issue. DO YOU READ ANYTHING WE TYPE LMAO!

    Morgan Freeman has proof. Lets start with him. All of YOUR tax returns shall go to him. done.

    good evening.
     
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    when someone doesnt get the answer THEY want then yes, they tend to go round and round until they do lol.
     
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    We aren't going to tax and distribute benefits based on skin color, but she brings this with the best of intentions. Other than that, Marianne brings a strong message of communal hope based on love.

    WE NEED TO LOOK DEEPER TO GRASP THE MEANING OF MARIANNE WILLIAMSON: “There’s more in heaven and earth than what’s dreamed of by normal politicians.

    The turn of the century Progressive movement came out of Leftwing Christianity. The modern progressive movement is preached from Leftwing pulpits every Sunday and while Hillary tried to raise this flag, she was so hateful corrupt and divisive that she never really pulled together the religious left into a cohesive political force. Today Marianne lifts it's standard in her personal form of

    mysticism, the revivalism of the Oprah circuit, the soul craft of the wellness movement, the pantheistic-gnostic-occultish territory at the edges of American Christianity’s fraying map. We don’t necessarily see it as a “left” only because it has acted indirectly on politics, reshaping liberalism and the wider culture from within and below, rather than acting through mass movements and political campaigns.​

    In which case the Williamson candidacy is an interesting milestone, a moment when an important cultural reality enters into politics explicitly.​

    The liberal intelligentsia has long prided itself on taking the side of reason and science against and superstition. But man does not live by Neil deGrasse Tyson memes alone, and because the mix of hard scientific materialism and well-meaning liberal humanitarianism has always been somewhat incoherent, the cult of reason necessarily shares space in liberal circles — especially liberal circles outside the innermost ring of the meritocracy — with other cults, other commitments, of the sort associated with “A Course in Miracles.”​

    The spirit of deGrasse Tyson and the spirit of Williamson can certainly coexist, but they can also fall into war with one another, over differences more significant than the debate over Medicare for All.​
     
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