Copy and paste the part where I typed that everyone was moral and good. I thought I typed: There has been plenty of immorality, but there used to be a stiff wind blowing in the direction of good will and morality. Then came liberals. Would it help if I post a recording of my words?
I think the victims of the inquisition and the crusades would disagree with the notion that more religion = better morals. Note that I think the intent of religions is usually good, it is just the implementation by amoral human beings that is the problem.
LOL! No proof "liberals" were any more nor any less "moral" than anyone else..... NO proof... Again, "immorality" existed and flourished without the help of any specific group....and it's silly to say so.. Please show where "liberals" forced others to become immoral..
It is fascinating that people assume a time when people could be owned like cattle and women were often little more than the property of their fathers or husbands was somehow 'moral' because it was more religious. During the supposedly 'moral' 1950s & early 60s legalised racism blighted the lives of tens of millions and there was no legal impediment to men raping their wives. Spousal abuse frequently went unpunished & even unreported and we now know that child abuse was rampant, not least among some of the most religious members of society. All of this gets forgotten because people who just can't tolerate the idea that people they consider their inferiors now have legal equality. of course, there is also the strong possibility that people who think we are less moral simply don't much care about the issues listed above and actually think a world where women & minorities 'knew their place' was a more moral one.
Sometimes I suspect that they yearn for those times because it would have allowed them to get away with those crimes of abuse and rape.
I agree, but it seems the quotient of hypocrisy has grown exponentially. What with the US bragging it is delivering democracy all around the globe by way of military aggression and torture, the index of government hypocrisy is likely much higher than it ever has been.
The same could be said for religion throughout history..... bragging it is delivering "morality" all around the globe by way of aggression and torture, the index of religious hypocrisy is likely much higher than it ever has been.
No, but it would help if you would review the meaning of the word "liberal" in a dictionary. Or review history and the beginning of this nation to learn that "liberal" was a word with a very positive connotation and denotation. Yes, that would help your posts to become a bit more relevant.
Sad that you actually believe that extreme right wing disinformation. Of course you can't prove it with anything credible but that is why it is extreme right wing bovine excrement.
I just don't like the term "Religion". It confuses the issue. Religion to me defines man's effort to define and earn God's approval. Faith in Christ is all about accepting what He has done for us and allowing Him to work in us. The former often negates the latter and is a major source of confusion and deception.
You are so correct . Human nature is and always will be the same.....it is flawed. If we "evolve" it will always be towards a type of "hedonism". We must restrain ourselves but many insist we let our nature "fly".
If you disagree with something I posted show your command of the subject matter by posting evidence that it is wrong.
Wrong again! Onus is entirely on the person making the bovine excrement allegation to substantiate it when it is called out. That you can't says volumes.
It seems we now live in a society where morality is defined by the individual and might often makes right. I can operate in that world.
There is a reason that leftists that run our schools don't want parents or religious institutions involved in decisions like children aborting unwanted babies. It was the same reason the Hitler youth existed and why religious institutions had to go underground under Communist regimes. Socialism only survives where the central government is the only influence. There is a great deal of credence in the saying, "In Capitalism, man exploits man. In Socialism, man exploits man." In the first case, it's voluntary and controlled by free will. In the second, it's mandatory and controlled by the police state. If you haven't noticed, there is nothing free in the leftist playbook. If you say something they disagree with they will attack you ,,, physically or economically. They just have to separate you from traditional rudders like faith and family to trap you in their authoritarian world.
Not likely. Morality would increase for those deemed immoral by religions. Are they changing, yes. But change is not equal to decline. Depends on the side of the morality equation one is on.
The world was full of 'Leave It To Beavers', back in the 1950s. All white, all male, all the time. So, of course it was also, all moral.
So, you would not like to see human's evolve? If we did not evolve, we would never have your god. Communication would not exist. So there'd be no way to tell others about some being. Or is it, human's should have evolved to a certain point, and stopped. But, human's inhabit all parts of the world, and each part invented their own being that may have created all this in the world.
When push comes to shove. When crap hits the fan, Might is the ONLY right. All other rights are agreed upon, mostly, by those who wish to live rather peacefully together.
NOTE to the informed. Leftists, so called by the uninformed, have not stopped anyone wanting to practice religion. There's one of those false claims you make that others have asked you to prove.