Why can't the market deliver healthcare at a low cost?

https://www.healthline.com/health-news/diabetes-could-top-336-billion-by-2034#1

If anything, Americans don’t have enough healthcare advice. They are FAT.

 

So healthcare costs are on the rise because your neighbor sees the doctor too often ?

 

But how much overweight did someone have to be to be considered "obese" in the past versus now? I would really like to know if you have that information, because it really does seem like they now consider anyone a little overweight "obese."

Also, I know of very few people who smoked for more than five years and then quit who didn't, within a couple years, gain at least 30 pounds and then come down with various weight and diet-related diseases, such as diabetes, joint problems, colon problems, etc., which they didn't have when they smoked. Just sayin...

 

Well, yes, in a way. Because when my neighbor's insurance pays for her and her family to run to the doctor every week for no real reason, it makes the cost of insurance go up for everyone. Ditto for running to the emergency room just because it's inconvenient to wait till Monday to see your regular doctor when your child has the sniffles.

 

No regulation of Health Insurance Companies, and Too much Regulation of Health Care Providers.

 

I am campaigning for flexibility. If someone can pass a bar exam, why do you care HOW they educated themselves in order to pass it? If they can do so, they should be lawyers. No?

 

Because a bar exam does not demonstrate all the expertise you need to practice law. It only covers general law practice procedures. There are many types of practices.
http://blog.lawkick.com/types-of-lawyers/
Did you actually claim to have a college education and not know anything about college ? Just checking.

 

Maybe you should have a talk with your neighbor. She’s the main cause of increased HC costs. Insurance companies monitor practice overuse. It’s their fault if they allow it. I guess real references don’t enter into your complaints. Take it up with your neighbor if you think she is single handle ruining the HC system.

 

Wow, now you’re solving the world’s problems based upon a few people you know. You must really get around. Just saying.

 

I know a lot of people who generalize about the world because of a few people they know. You’re one of them.

 

Business majors know nothing about medicine or science. That’s obvious.

 

Oh, you hate and don’t trust government and now you’re going to support handing over the qualification procedures for all professions to the government through the certification process.
Amazing.

 

Correct, there are different types of lawyers. A Patent Lawyer must have a 4 year STEM degree. But a General Lawyer only needs to pass a Bar Exam and then he is a general lawyer. My question to you stands. EDIT: Most of the other 17 types of lawyers you link to only need to pass the Bar. They are not even allowed to call themselves things like, "Personal Injury Lawyer". They can only hold themselves out to be Lawyers with a concentration in Personal Injury as there is no additional exam to pass.

I do not support our Government coming up with arbitrary rules that cost our kids $100Ks and years and years of their young lives at so vital a time in which they should be partnering up, buying houses and having kids.

That is baloney. Do you have any idea how many Doctor's offices are out there that need to meet payrolls, be properly staffed, pay bills, etc. Thank heavens they do not have to get an Associates in Business too before they can open an office.

 

Not true at all. Compare this to auto (or home owners) insurance.

You have options with those don’t you? The cost to repair auto damage, and especially house damage is very high. Yet the insurance rate (based on risk) is relatively low and affordable.

Healthcare on the other hand has removed the consumer from knowing (or caring) what the cost is since it’s so highly subsidized by the taxpayers.

Basically, spending other people’s money, on other people, guarantees that you get a crap product/service, at the highest price possible. The most inefficient way there is to spend money.

 

Making payroll is not about science and medicine. Wtf are you talking about. Business degrees have long been the easiest courses and the ones most offered on line. If you couldn't do higher math, science or engineering, you took business. You business majors are a dime a dozen and easily the biggest focus of scam artists.

 

I'm arguing that one not need a degree if their focus is one thing or another. In the instance I mention, a medical doctor may know quite about business. You want vice versa so...

There are all sorts of Business jobs that require Science knowledge such as sales. Sales Engineers and Medical Equipment sales require an understanding of science based products such as firewall, medicines, diagnostic tools, etc. The Sales Engineers with whom I have worked, if they had a degree at all, it was in something unhelpful. Their tech knowledge came from OJT and certifications they can earn in months for relatively small amounts of money.

 

Wrong. No business degree requires the science or math needed for engineering and medicine. It’s purely cursory. They don’t know s.h.i.t from shinola about either and more likely, it’s much easier for a doctor, lawyer ( especially one with credits in business law) to develop working knowledge in their business.
Another fictitious idea promoting business majors who get credits on line with ease. Next, you’ll claim a business major with an online degree can perform surgery because he ordered a stethoscope for the working doctor in the office.

 

That's kind of my point. One gets out of business school and enters sales for medicine or technology without one bit of STEM Education. They'll get that education elsewhere, not college. My buddy had trouble finding himself. He was a teacher first. Then getting a masters in optomology. He ended up going into software applications for security. His degrees did nothing for him. He had to get a tech background elsewhere to perform in this business position.

 

It doesn’t matter what knowledge a doctor acquires about business in his enterprise, it’s totally un comparable with what the business manger of the office leans about medicine. No doctor surgeon I have ever heard of, routinely trains the office secretary or accountant to do surgery. Laughable.

 

Ha ha
I would hope not. One bit ? The math isn’t quite at the same level, but I can’t find any professional occupation that does not require math.

 

That shows you how easy it is to learn business in general....
I rest my case.

 

What I'm writing is that you don't need to go to college for any of this.

I'm writing, do not go at all. It will save time and money if people get OJT and certs and cut down on medical costs.

 

Save time and money ? Ha ha.
How much money do you think you’d loose if a patient died at the hands of the secretary who operated without a degree from a school of medicine. Her certification would mean nothing.

 

You don’t need college to practice law, be a medical doctor or an engineer ? Centuries ago, we had slaves, falling bridges and many more patients dying unnecessarily. You want govt alone . to certify people with no input from the private sector...as that’s what colleges provide.
That’s an about face.

 

But if she left school at age 14, worked at a hospital, over the years of full time work, took labs and cert tests, earned licenses, did apprenticeships with escalating duties and pay, by the time she is 30, she'd have 16 years experience, 6 figures in the bank and be a medical doctor. We have to create the infrastructure to do this. As it is, you stay in brick and mortar school till you're 30ish, your 6 figures in debt. And you have no real world experience. How many stories have you heard of new residents who cannot even take a blood sample yet? (do you know what that thing is when they put something like a vice in your mouth to make space for a breathing tube? That's one I've heard takes some skill)

Who says existing professionals have no say in how we train people? Lawyers, for instance, do advise the Board of Bar Overseers and the administration of the exam.