Support for impeachment jumps in new poll

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  1. MrTLegal

    MrTLegal Well-Known Member

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    Dude. What the actual ****. He was not bragging about the Ukrainians firing a prosecutor investigating Burisma Oil and his son. The prosecutor had closed the investigation into Burisma Oil and his son two years BEFORE he got fired. He was fired for NOT investigating corruption and Biden was the point man representing nearly every single Western Nation who wanted that prosecutor fired for his unwillingness to investigate corruption.

    If you really think he admitted to a crime on that video, why did the new ukrainian prosecutor say that Biden did nothing wrong a full year AFTER that video was made? Why didn't Trump refer Biden to a domestic investigatory agency after that video?

    Seriously lady, you are just using some really, really, really terrible talking points.
     
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    He was investigating both before and after those comments were made. And all of those investigations resulted in findings of zero evidence of wrong doing.

    But that's enough times that I have had to correct you on a topic that is irrelevant to the topic of this thread.

    Support for the Impeachment of Donald Trump because he sought assistance from a foreign leader to investigate Trump's domestic political rival while Trump simultaneously and unilaterally withheld hundreds of millions in military aid has jumped over the past week.

    Do you have a response?
     
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    The transcript confirms nearly every allegation reportedly contained therein by the Transcript (which details many more actions).
     
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    LOL, sure, keep fooling yourself with that.
     
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    Trump sought the assistance of a foreign leader to investigate Trump's domestic political rival while he simultaneously and unilaterally withheld hundreds of million in military aid from that country.
     
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    Hmmm, you mean like Biden did by threatening to withhold 1 billion if Ukraine did not stop the investigation into Burisma. I take it the President is not supposed to ask other countries about investigating corruption by US officials.

    BTW, the transcript shows no quid pro quo and even one of the Dem contenders, Tulsi, understands this.
     
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    Do you know what the middle class is?
    World leaders ask other word leaders for assistance all the time. It is not illegal just because Trump frothers say it is. Like millions of people who saw Joe brag about blackmail, Trump ASKED the new Ukrainian president to look into it. No one should get a pass on blackmail whether they are running for office or not. An allegation of a crime is an allegation of a crime. The new president was free to say yes, or no, to this request without consequence. He said so when he was in Washington, so there is no offended party except Trump frothers.

    Trump freely released a transcript of the conversation you are moaning about. Democrats who are railing about it are the same people who tried to frame Trump in the Russian Collusion Illusion so they have zero credibility.

    They're grasping at a straw and trying to twist the straw at the same time.

    Be honest. This is all just a stand-in for the 2016 election. You still can't get over the fact that Trump made fools of Hillary, the demo party, the mass media, the pollsters and Trump frothers like yourself.

    Get over it and wait for 2020. You can get even in a constitutional manner without a witch hunt.
     
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    Good do it jesus all ya'll have talked about for 3 years, grow a pair call your congressman and do it. I really wish you lefties had the guts to do it.
     
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    It is actively happening right now...what are you asking for again?
     
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    Stop saying objectively inaccurate things about the Ukraine-Biden allegation.
     
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    An unnamed Ukrainian official said that Kiev was not made aware that the U.S. suspended security funds until a month after President Trump's call with his Ukrainian counterpart Volodymyr Zelensky, which calls into question the whistleblower's account and Democrats' arguments that there was a quid pro quo for the aid.

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/ukrainian-official-appears-to-cast-doubt-on-quid-pro-quo-claim

    How does that work again? :roflol:
     
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    You first, please.
     
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    This is not about an impeachment vote. It's about politics.

    Too many freshman congress people will get the boot next November if they vote yes. and Nancy knows it. It will never pass in the Senate and the back lash at the polls next November would be devastating.

    This is just theatre to keep Trump frothers clapping until 2020. Roman emperors gave the mob games to keep them happy. Demo leaders have Trump.
     
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    You mean stop pointing out the facts.
     
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    No, I meant stop saying objectively inaccurate things.

    The prosecutor that Biden got fired had shut down the investigation into Burisma oil roughly two years before he was fired. So to claim that he was fired because of an ongoing investigation into Biden's son (let alone that Biden bragged about it) is a fundamental and factually inaccurate statement.
     
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    Biden bragged about threatening Ukraine to fire Shokin. Why would Biden threaten Ukraine for dropping an investigation into the company Biden's son worked for? The investigation was shelved after Shokin was fired in 2016.
     
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    That is your first article of impeachment in one easy to understand sentence..

    :applause:

    I would consider adding the following to the end, but it could be overkill

    ".... from that country, while they were at war against another country who actively supported Trump's election."

    TMI??
     
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    The investigation was completed two years prior. You have been shown this fact many, many times.

    And after Biden bragged about getting Shokin fired, the new prosecutor re-opened the investigation. He then concluded one year later that none of the Bidens committed any wrongdoing.

    Now, do you have a reaction to the actual topic of this thread: Namely that support for Impeachment of Donald Trump jumped 7 points in a week?
     
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    The Shokin investigation was not investigating Biden's son. The Shokin investigation was investigating Burisma that was paying Biden's son. That investigation got shelved after Shokin was fired.
     
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    It might have jumped 7 additional points since this thread was opened...
     
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    TWO YEARS BEFORE SHOKIN WAS FIRED.

    You have been corrected on this topic, one that is irrelevant to the topic of this thread, many times over. Do you have a comment about the topic in this thread?
     
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    I am one of those Republicans that would answer a poll yes for impeachment, because I know that would guarantee another 4 years of Trump. He is the best thing to happen to America in decades. Democrats live and die by polls, if a poll told them to hold their urine they would die before they emptied their bladders.
     
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    So you say as that is the 'official' story but not the story Shokin tells.
     
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    I support success (Trump) , not smears (the democrats)
     
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    Tulsi supports the Impeachment Inquiry.
     

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