Pu$$y grabbing - let’s settle this once and for all

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  1. Thedimon

    Thedimon Well-Known Member

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    If an adult woman is OK with mans behavior at the moment, she cannot change her mind in the future. Sorry, but spreading your legs to get into the industry and then claiming sexual assault 10 years later is beyond absurd.
     
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    And SOMEHOW you don't think that grabbing any woman by her ***** is not an invasion of her body and a sexual assault??????
     
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    I’m not grasping the point of the thread. The context of the proclamation was clear as is the President’s view of woman though I realize many of my gender are still knuckle-draggers. No. Walking up and grabbing people by their genitalia is not good etiquette.
     
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    Thedimon Well-Known Member

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    Have you ever had sex with a woman? If you did, I bet you grabbed that puzzy at least once in your lifetime.
     
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    Thedimon Well-Known Member

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    That’s not what Trump implied. The only one I can think of who is truly touchy-feely is Biden.
    Being allowed to grab a puzzy does not mean you walk from across a room to a random woman and just grab it.

    I’m seriously wondering if some people who criticize Trump for this ever had a relationship with a woman.
     
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    FAW Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Not if they "let" you. Do you not know that let means allow?
     
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    With over twenty women having filed sexual assault complaints against Dirty Donald the ***** grabbing clearly was not always welcomed!!!
     
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    FAW Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Politically motivated accusations such as those levied against Kavanaugh and Trump are NOT the same thing as the Billy Bush discussion which is the topic in this thread.

    Out of one side of your mouth you too are talking about the Billy Bush discussion, but when properly confronted that let means allow, you disingenuously pivot to questionably unfounded sexual harassment accusations and then pretend like it is the same thing. It is a never ending circle of deceit.
     
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    Monica "let" Bill too. It was still highly inappropriate due to the power differential.

    I wonder how many Miss Universe contestants "let' Trump grab? After all, it was reported that he even walked into their changing room. Can you spell creep? No power differential there, no?
     
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    Monica did let Bill. You do know that he was impeached for lying about it rather than the consensual act?

    If you want to jump into and comment on a thread about Miss Universe, by all means do so. Please don't falsely conflate it into the Billy Bush discussion.
     
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    Nobody in this thread, or anywhere else has ever talked about the Billy Bush tape being ground for impeachment. It does, however, indicate moral deficiencies by admitting of exploiting a power differential for se*ual favors. I don't think that can be denied.
     
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    The charges against both Kavanaugh and Dirty Donald WERE NOT politically motivated, since all of those making the charges could never have known that either man would wind up being in a political debate when their egregious behavior occurred.
     
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    He wasn’t the president at the time, no real power, just money.
     
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    -When arguing that nobody is claiming the Billy Bush are grounds for impeachment, you are arguing against a point that was not raised. That makes is a textbook strawman argument.

    -It doesn't imply exploitation of a power difference for sexual favors. It implies taking advantage of the undeniable reality that women throw themselves at men with money. It truly is as simple as that. You too would agree except that you hate Trump so therefore you are going to go to great lengths to imply as negative of a connotation as you think you can possibly get away with.
     
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    Your logic if faulty. When the allegations supposedly occurred is irrelevant. What is relevant is when the allegations were brought into the public sphere. If Christine Ford reported her allegations when they happened, or even at some point during one of his numerous judicial confirmations over the decades, it would not appear to be politically motivated. Since however, it didn't become known until an unbelievably contentious Supreme Court nomination and only after everything else had failed , calling it politically motivated seems more than reasonable.
     
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    Sure, especially when the “victim” doesn’t remember this event and refuses to discuss with anyone.
     
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    Who? Who were they? Can you name them? Can you name just one of them? You guys have been squawking about this for 3 years and yet you can't name anyone?
     
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    But the charges were only made after they were engulfed in political debate.,
     
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    A rich guy doesn’t really have any power except for money.
    If he grabs a woman by her private parts and she is an employee then there are sexual discrimination that would make her rich. If she is a partner - well, quit partnership or always send a representative. In any other situation - walk away.
    So, what kind of “power” are you talking about?
     
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    If a woman was to bring a claim of sexual harassment against him he has quite a lot of power over said woman with his money and high-powered attorneys. You don’t think it’s intimidating to go up against a powerful person like Trump?
     
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    Thedimon Well-Known Member

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    Sexual harassment claims are hard to fight. If I were a woman and trump grabbed by my private parts I’d happily quit and file a lawsuit for sexual harassment which would result in a payout totaling a few years of my salary.
     
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    Hard to win too.
     
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    He was referring to celebrity groupies in particular. It's just part of being famous.
     
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    Sexual harassment? No.
    Usually, before the lawsuit is even filed, employers lawyers will try to settle out of the court to shut you up. Rarely does this go to court.
    And the case is not criminal, so you don’t have to prove beyond the reasonable doubt.

    Sexual harassment is employers worst nightmare - very expensive and damaging to reputation. A company will do just about anything to avoid the court.
     
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    I was referring to situations that involve someone powerful like Trump. Never mentioned anything about workplace harassment.
     
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