ABC apologizes for mistaking Kentucky gun range video for Turkish bombing of Syria

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  1. Fred C Dobbs

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    I wouldn't have known when watching that video, if I watched ABC, but am grateful that others can spot this stuff and report on it.
     
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    What do you think stock footage is a live broadcast? Hardly.
     
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    God must ask yer advice all the time what with yous being so perfect, just like The Don.
     
  4. Fred C Dobbs

    Fred C Dobbs Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I wouldn't understood different battleships either but it's easy - with a little research - to spot fake opinions, based on fake news, from fake media outfits.
     
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    Never mentioned live broadcast did I? Hmmmm.
     
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    The Frankfurt School of Critical Theory aka political-correctness or just cultural-marxism

    The Frankfurt School was a group of scholars known for developing critical theory and popularizing the dialectical method of learning by interrogating society's contradictions. It is most closely associated with the work of Max Horkheimer, Theodor W. Adorno, Erich Fromm, and Herbert Marcuse. It was not a school, in the physical sense, but rather a school of thought associated with scholars at the Institute for Social Research at the University of Frankfurt in Germany.

    In 1923, Marxist scholar Carl Grünberg founded the Institute, initially financed by another such scholar, Felix Weil. The Frankfurt School scholars are known for their brand of culturally focused neo-Marxist theory—a rethinking of classical Marxism updated to their socio-historical period. This proved seminal for the fields of sociology, cultural studies, and media studies.

    Origins of the Frankfurt School
    In 1930 Max Horkheimer became the director of the Institute and recruited many of the scholars who came to be known collectively as the Frankfurt School. In the aftermath of Marx's failed prediction of revolution, these individuals were dismayed by the rise of Orthodox Party Marxism and a dictatorial form of communism. They turned their attention to the problem of rule through ideology, or rule carried out in the realm of culture. They believed that technological advancements in communications and the reproduction of ideas enabled this form of rule.


    Their ideas overlapped with Italian scholar Antonio Gramsci's theory of cultural hegemony. Other early members of the Frankfurt School included Friedrich Pollock, Otto Kirchheimer, Leo Löwenthal, and Franz Leopold Neumann. Walter Benjamin was also associated with it during its peak in the mid-20th century.

    One of the core concerns of the scholars of the Frankfurt School, especially Horkheimer, Adorno, Benjamin, and Marcuse, was the rise of "mass culture." This phrase refers to the technological developments that allowed for the distribution of cultural products—music, film, and art—on a mass scale. (Consider that when these scholars began crafting their critiques, radio and cinema were still new phenomena, and television didn't exist.) They objected to how technology led to a sameness in production and cultural experience. Technology allowed the public to sit passively before cultural content rather than actively engage with one another for entertainment, as they had in the past. The scholars theorized that this experience made people intellectually inactive and politically passive, as they allowed mass-produced ideologies and values to wash over them and infiltrate their consciousness.


    The Frankfurt School also argued that this process was one of the missing links in Marx's theory of the domination of capitalism and explained why revolution never came. Marcuse took this framework and applied it to consumer goods and the new consumer lifestyle that had just become the norm in Western countries in the mid-1900s. He argued that consumerism functions in much the same way, for it maintains itself through a creation of false needs that only the products of capitalism can satisfy... -> https://www.thoughtco.com/frankfurt-school-3026079







     
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    And China with a lot of help from American "transnational" corporations has stifled the internet.
     
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    I believe Marcuse was a student of Heideggers and may have mentored Alinsky - very influential.
     
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    Because the actual video isnt dramatic enough.

    Trump wont look bad unless it looks like a slaughter.

    So a guy shooting a mini gun will do.
     
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    HTownMarine Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Remember when the Zimmerman phone call was accidentally doctored?

    That was a mistake too, I'm sure.
     
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    How could you tell?
     
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    Herbert Marcus aka the father of the New Left

    Herbert Marcuse
    (19 July 189829 July 1979) was a German American philosopher, sociologist, and political theorist, associated with the Frankfurt School of critical theory. Born in Germany, he along with jewish-germans such as Wilhelm Reich and Theodor Adorno, emigrated to the United States after NSDAP had seized power in Germany. Perhaps the best known works of Marcuse are Eros and Civilization, One-Dimensional Man and The Aesthetic Dimension. Marcuse is in significant part responsible for the Cubaphile meme in degenerate pop culture and the Viet Cong supporting student "peace" protest movement of the 1960s.

    Marcuse was a father of Cultural Marxism and Critical Theory. Critical Theory was essentially destructive criticism of the main elements of Western culture, including Christianity, capitalism, authority, the family, patriarchy, hierarchy, morality, tradition, sexual restraint, loyalty, patriotism, nationalism, heredity, ethnocentrism, convention and conservatism.

    See also





    The New Left and radical politics

    Many radical scholars and activists were influenced by Marcuse, such as Norman O. Brown,[18] Angela Davis,[19] Charles J. Moore, Abbie Hoffman, Rudi Dutschke, and Robert M. Young. (See the List of Scholars and Activists link, below.) Among those who critiqued him from the left were Marxist-humanist Raya Dunayevskaya, fellow German emigre Paul Mattick, both of whom subjected One-Dimensional Man to a Marxist critique, and Noam Chomsky, who knew and liked Marcuse "but thought very little of his work."[20] Marcuse's 1965 essay "Repressive Tolerance", in which he claimed capitalist democracies can have totalitarian aspects, has been criticized by conservatives.[21] Marcuse argues that genuine tolerance does not permit support for "repression", since doing so ensures that marginalized voices will remain unheard. He characterizes tolerance of repressive speech as "inauthentic". Instead, he advocates a form of tolerance that is intolerant of repressive (namely right-wing) political movements:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herbert_Marcuse#World_War_II


     
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    Since you brought up Zimmerman...

    Do you think America got suckered into the stupidest war of the 20th Century, the First World War because of a fake telegram, the Zimmerman Telegram ?

    British intelligence has a long track history of feeding fake intelligence to other countries like WMD's in Iraq and Muammar Gaddafi was bombing his own people when the truth was Gaddafi was bombing Al Qaeda.

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    Cant pull the source but...

    "Revelation of the contents enraged Americans, especially after German Foreign Secretary Arthur Zimmermann publicly admitted on March 3 that the telegram was genuine, helping to generate support for the United States declaration of war on Germany in April.[1]"
     
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    This guy explains it very well, any why leftists think the way they do..
     
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    Marcuse also echos Hobbes and Plato.

    "Reason insists that it is in everyone's interest to form "That great sovereign LEVIATHAN called a COMMONWEALTH." and hand over absolute power to a ruler (to "covenant") so that he may prevent people from slaughtering each other. It would be irrational to set limits on the ruler, for that would lead to the destruction of the commonwealth. The subjects, therefore, have no ground on which to question the decisions or the judgment of the ruler, for reason dictates that they must be treated as the truth." p. 82, 83.
     
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    Every ruling political class loves war, and almost any excuse will be embraced to start or enter a war.
     
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    The honest mistake like misquoting Trump and saying whoops afterwards knowing that you’ve already planted the seeds. So it’s NEVER really an honest mistake. How do I know this? Because it never happened with Obama or Hillary. The MSM purposely buried stories that could make their chosen candidates look bad. Journalism died in 08.
     
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    Much of Trump's opposition is too detached from reality to react appropriately to ABC's fraudulent coverage of warfare in Syria,

    The Heidegger influenced American academy has embraced the idea that reality, including gravity, can be altered by manipulating text or language - through “social construction”. This drift of the intellectual left beyond the edge of reason was documented by a physicist, Alan Sokal.

    “I wrote a parody of postmodern science criticism, entitled ``Transgressing the Boundaries: Toward a Transformative Hermeneutics of Quantum Gravity'', and submitted it to the cultural-studies journal Social Text (of course without telling the editors that it was a parody). They published it as a serious scholarly article in their spring 1996 special issue devoted to what they call the ``Science Wars''.[3] Three weeks later I revealed the hoax in an article in Lingua Franca[4], and all hell broke loose.[5]”

    http://www.physics.nyu.edu/faculty/sokal/noretta.html
     
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    And if they can't get as low as they want, they will start digging a hole.
     
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    And to think that this is a Disney corporation...
     
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    By any chance, do you have another source than Wikipedia ?


    The Wikipedia "Arthur Zimmerman" and "Zimmerman Telegram" pages "talk" pages don't exist for some strange reason.

    Wikipedia about eight years ago or so adopted revisionist history so one has to do some further research when using Wikipedia.

    Otherwise this Arthur Zimmerman seemed to be a class act agitator and trouble maker back in his days.
    He would have made a good community organizer today.
    Agitate, cause trouble and divide society.

    The Mexican Navy with submarines ???
    That would have been really funny if they did buy German submarines.
    Pretty sure submarines even back in the early 1900's had "hot bunks" and there wouldn't have been enough bunks available when the Mexican sailors stop being sailors and took their daily siesta.
     
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    Great stuff! and we can easily see it happening. Using the MEGO`method works and people in this industry are often too reluctant to admit they don't understand what's being said. Looked at it, didn't understand a thing, but can see why it's a classic.
     
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    More fake news from the media.. Absolutely disgraceful and fairly obvious they are trying to drive a narrative.

     
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    Already a thread on the topic, but you can bet your bottom dollar that if Trump is promoting - repeatedly - an explicit example where a news source got a report inaccurate (or here, where they got the report accurate but used an incorrect video clip), then the example is pretty non-damaging and does not justify his repeated use of the 2016 politifact lie of the year.

    Seriously, he demanded an apology from ABC. Apologize to whom? As if there are zero explosions going on in Syria and Trump's decision to abandon US allies is not resulting in the deaths of thousands of civilians.
     
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